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James M-S
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats thumbsup

If you have any more budget stretch I would go straight for a full exhaust system. Have a look at the website of cgr automotive exhausts. A forum members car is on there and sounds epic.

https://www.cgrautomotive.co.uk/single-post/Porsche-911-Exhaust

I went in stages as I was paranoid about going too loud for a daily. (centre bypass, then gundo, then bmc filters).

It’s hard to get the howl from a DFI engine.
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Marky911
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good result Mogwai. Nice one. Thumb
 
  
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Mogwai
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks folks.

I've had an RS60 before with PSE and remember that howl. I do miss it. I also had a gen 2 Boxster S with the GT Carnewal exahust and it was also a lovely sound.

I'm sure funds will become available at some point, but maybe not enough for the full CGR system yet. I'll do the Sharkwerks/Top Gear/H&S bypass first and take it from there.

PDK (even the first generation) is the best 'auto' box I've driven. Smooth and always seemed to be in the right gear. Better than the S-Tronic box anyway. However I'm old skool, have no interest in 0-60 times or track days and I want to go back to a manual.

I've tried all the best auto boxes, and try to amuse myself by driving them in manual mode with paddles but, for me, it's just not the same. There's something so satisfying about nailing a smooth gearchange up/down.

I pick it up late next week so will get some pics up then Cool
 
  
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MarkC4S
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
MarkC4S wrote:
Welcome, IMHO 997.2 S manual, pretty much "peak Porsche" Smile


Lol almost Grin

Nice colour if that’s yours worship
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Yep, but a wrap, not standard. Like yours too!
 
  
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997_2_C4S
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looked at that when I bought my C4S from Ashgoods in Dec. Hope it’s better underneath than mine. I had to do a £3k underbody refurb...
 
  
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Shaoxter
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the purchase!

Regarding the exhaust, a centre bypass + PSE is plenty loud enough (and sounds great!). With PSE on, mine was 106dB static which will get you kicked out from most trackdays. Even with PSE off you'll still get black flagged at some places.

You might also want to look at this contraption which gets rid of the highly annoying quiet PSE mode at certain speeds: http://www.carnewal.com/products/997/p97084/PSE-Manual-Control
 
  
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Mogwai
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks folks .. I am hoping I won't be in line for a £3k refresh, that's pretty poor.

Mind you the car will be sitting outside all year, and in Scotland with our crappy winters, so will undoubtedly need some work at some point.

I'm torn between a centre muffler bypass or the Top gear valved exhaust as my first go at getting it to sound 1/2 decent.

It's hard to tell for the uneducated numbskull like myself whether you can add the bypass first, then the valved exhaust, and also whether I need new tips if I go for the valved option (or can I use the existing ones).

There's a Milltek dealer garage up here (bypass) that also does Akrapovic but I'm not willing to spend £5k plus on a full system.

Probably worth a call to Top Gear at some point soon to see.
 
  
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997_2_C4S
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be interested to know you get on - I have the PSE and would like to add the bypass pipe.
 
  
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James M-S
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the centre bypass first, then gundo a couple of years later.

In your position I would go for top gear back boxes first.

Bypass alone didn’t make much difference until you’re at 3500revs. Back boxes will give you a rumble from idle.
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TonyC911
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats

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Mogwai
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to complete the picture, I picked up the 997.2s on Friday morning.

Long ass drive there and back but it was nice to get to know the car on the way home.

First off I would recommend Ashgoods, it felt more like a bunch of enthusiasts rather than a dealer just trying to sell cars. They wouldn't let me leave until I was 100% happy with the car. There were a few small marks on the alloys when I first saw it and they were touched up before I left.

The car itself is pretty immaculate. It's 12 years old but I'm struggling to see anything exterior/interior that needs looked at. The alloys could probably do with a refurb to get them back to new but that's about it.

It's a Northern Irish car (I knew this) and comes with a folder stuffed with MOT's, service history (full Porsche) and had an official 111 point check at Porsche in April 2019 (it's only done 1,500 miles since then). It's even running N rated tyres. I'm really happy Very Happy

This is my first 911. I traded in an RS3 so that's my main comparison point.

First off it's as I expected having owned a few Boxsters before. It's way more raw and connected than the Audi. Steering chatters away all the time, throttle response is much sharper (better), it's more mechanical. Turn in is so much better. Tyre noise has gone up, fairly significantly.

It's torque-ier than I thought it would be, and also shorter geared running @3k revs at 75 ish. It's definitely a sports car, and shows the Audi up to be a hatch with a magic engine.

One downside though, apart from the tyre noise - it's soooooooo quiet Dont know the Audi 5 pot with the dynamic exhaust sounded brilliant, it would crackle and pop when I was on it too. The 911 is almost silent by comparison. It needs sorted and soon ...

I'll get some pictures up when I have time ..
 
  
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HSC911
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats
 
  
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benbuhagiar
Nürburgring


Joined: 28 Dec 2014
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Location: Kent

2008 Porsche 997 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one.

The lack of noise was an issue for me, so I got a Hayward & Scott centre bypass pipe, which made a positive difference.

The other issue is the engine is far out back, so you don't hear the revs. The Audi engine was directly infront of you, so sounded much nicer.
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