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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:07 pm    Post subject: C2 brake upgrade Reply with quote

At a recent track day, my brakes suffered and started juddering. I overheated them. And yes i did my cool down lap.

I want to upgrade the discs and pads. But I dont want to compromise road use, so a relatively mild upgrade.

Recommendations?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tricky one, you could just go Pagid yellows but I found they squeal a lot in road use. I've got Big Reds and Textar pads but it's an expensive option.
Cooling ducts are a possibility but will require Turbo S ducts and some tedious work to get the trunking in and a bit of cutting to oil cooler shroud and disc back plates. I've never tracked the 993 but the 944 with 993 front calipers and 928 discs has superb braking, the rears do tend to overheat. The 944 has 968 air deflectors attached to the lower wishbones which provide some cooling without brake ducts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I stay with standard discs and pads, what are the best brand? Brembo?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sebro Discs & Textar Pads are Porsche/OEM.

Some Pagid Pads and Brake Cooling Ducting should do the trick IMO.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
Sebro Discs & Textar Pads are Porsche/OEM.

Some Pagid Pads and Brake Cooling Ducting should do the trick IMO.

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Any links or advice on how to do the ducting?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to mention, ensure you have new fluid too.

Some good info here: http://911sg.com/964-993-brake-cooling-duct-upgrade/

I did read a recent thread on Rennlist re someone adding ducting/pipework. Will try to find it when I have time. Thumb

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
Forgot to mention, ensure you have new fluid too.

Some good info here: http://911sg.com/964-993-brake-cooling-duct-upgrade/

I did read a recent thread on Rennlist re someone adding ducting/pipework. Will try to find it when I have time. Thumb

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Thanks for this! The ducts look like what I need.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
Sebro Discs & Textar Pads are Porsche/OEM.

Some Pagid Pads and Brake Cooling Ducting should do the trick IMO.

C.


Textar are, Sebro aren't, but probably the best option
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Bumpsteer wrote:
cableguy wrote:
Sebro Discs & Textar Pads are Porsche/OEM.

Some Pagid Pads and Brake Cooling Ducting should do the trick IMO.

C.


Textar are, Sebro aren't, but probably the best option


Sebro are the factory option and the best bet.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickjonesn4 wrote:
Billy Bumpsteer wrote:
cableguy wrote:
Sebro Discs & Textar Pads are Porsche/OEM.

Some Pagid Pads and Brake Cooling Ducting should do the trick IMO.

C.


Textar are, Sebro aren't, but probably the best option


Sebro are the factory option and the best bet.


Sebro are excellent, but not the factory option, factory fit was SHW
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A complete fluid renewal, I use https://www.motamec.com/ate-super-blue-type-200-dot-4-racing-motorsport-brake-fluid-boiling-point-280c.html

Ive had this in the 993 for many years after I suffered slight fade under extreme braking at the Nurburgring, it performs outstandingly.

If you are pretty handy on the spanners, it takes me about 20mins to change the pads. I use pagid RS29 yellows for trackdays/Nurburgring and the Textars for normal road use.
The RS29s are outstanding, but do squeak when used on the road.

Standard discs/calipers are fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Bumpsteer wrote:
nickjonesn4 wrote:
Billy Bumpsteer wrote:
cableguy wrote:
Sebro Discs & Textar Pads are Porsche/OEM.

Some Pagid Pads and Brake Cooling Ducting should do the trick IMO.

C.


Textar are, Sebro aren't, but probably the best option


Sebro are the factory option and the best bet.


Sebro are excellent, but not the factory option, factory fit was SHW


You learn something new every day!

Ive got the Sebro/Textar combo and they are an excellent option.
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