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991.2GTS
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:01 pm    Post subject: Speed Yellow 993 C4 - Rear lid lip spoiler Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me if the rear tail lid lip spoiler on this C4 is original?

https://www.seymourpope.com/used-vehicle-details/Porsche-911-U371/#

I like the car, but hate that thing. Does anyone know how easy this would be to remove, and would it be a case of unsightly plugs?

I’ve emailed the dealer, and asked if it was factory fitted, and they said they think its a genuine OEM part. But non committal on the ease of removal or if it left the factory like that.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cousin had the exact same spoiler on a 993 that he had about 20 years ago, i have seen these on 993's before and always assumed they were genuine parts, Definately looks like a 90's thing.........

Can the OPC not give you a build spec of the car ?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A TechArt item, according to a post on Rennlist...:




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4Silver wrote:
My cousin had the exact same spoiler on a 993 that he had about 20 years ago, i have seen these on 993's before and always assumed they were genuine parts, Definately looks like a 90's thing.........

Can the OPC not give you a build spec of the car ?


Thanks. I’ll get the dealer to send a list of the options and I’ll check against this:

https://www.stuttcars.com/technical/option-codes/993-94-95/


I can’t find much mention of them anywhere else. The closest I can find to it is on a 964, but this was an aftermarket mod.

There is also a 993 mod from techart that is similar. But can’t find any mention of this being stock.

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-forum/844246-96-arena-red-993-in-denver.html
 



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch3tman wrote:
A TechArt item, according to a post on Rennlist...:





Thanks, that looks like the one. I’ll check the options just to make sure. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a Techart part, back in the 1990's Techart were in bed with Porsche UK, so technically a Porsche part?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not had chance to check but lots of brochures on my FAQ thread

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=82579
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm liking the speed yellow car Thumb

Too much dough for me though Bandit
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone for their input. It looks like it’s the techart ‘heckspoiler’. Found installation instructions here.

It’s a shame, as it’ll leave behind some drilled holes in the lid. Which I expected, but I was hoping, against hope, that it might have been fixed in another way.

So, this one isn’t meant to be. The search continues......
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone wanting that spoiler :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-993-Rear-Boot-Tailgate-Spoiler-Trunk-Wing-1993-1997-Brand-New/264146984472?fits=Plat_Gen%3A993&hash=item3d80631e18:g:ct4AAOSwmU9eLVTW


Anyone removing that spoiler and not wanting holes (needs paint obv):

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-993-CARRERA-C2-C4-REAR-ENGINE-LID-DARK-BLUE-SPOILER-GRILL-993-512-117/133334857884?epid=653696645&hash=item1f0b60789c:g:XhAAAOSwtPReSBUU


991.2GTS this looks like an easy fix.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

991.2GTS wrote:


It’s a shame, as it’ll leave behind some drilled holes in the lid. Which I expected, but I was hoping, against hope, that it might have been fixed in another way.

So, this one isn’t meant to be. The search continues......


You're going to reject the car on that? Given the investment going into the car, surely the additional cost of a new deck lid wouldn't break the bank?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gunner wrote:
991.2GTS wrote:


It’s a shame, as it’ll leave behind some drilled holes in the lid. Which I expected, but I was hoping, against hope, that it might have been fixed in another way.

So, this one isn’t meant to be. The search continues......


You're going to reject the car on that? Given the investment going into the car, surely the additional cost of a new deck lid wouldn't break the bank?


agree.. link above for deck lid, just needs some paint and prep. price the work and bid the dealer less that figure.

You could sell that deck lid with spoiler if need be for a similar sum to the oem one on ebay I linked id say.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the above comments: my car came with an aerokit that I didn't want, but didn't let that stop me. Actually sold the bits on here and ended up a few quid up after buying the standard parts.

If the car is otherwise right for you, it'll be worth a little extra effort.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

991.2GTS wrote:

It’s a shame, as it’ll leave behind some drilled holes in the lid. Which I expected, but I was hoping, against hope, that it might have been fixed in another way.

So, this one isn’t meant to be. The search continues......


Surprised

Why not just buy a new spoiler and get it painted Dont know

Chances are the raising spoiler will have a slight curve/bow due to engine heat over the time so you get to fix that as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
991.2GTS wrote:

It’s a shame, as it’ll leave behind some drilled holes in the lid. Which I expected, but I was hoping, against hope, that it might have been fixed in another way.

So, this one isn’t meant to be. The search continues......


Surprised

Why not just buy a new spoiler and get it painted Dont know

Chances are the raising spoiler will have a slight curve/bow due to engine heat over the time so you get to fix that as well.


I linked the spoiler free item above
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any decent dealer would do this as part of the car prep? New lid colour matched to the car?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Sponge - in a buyer's market I'd be saying to Seymour Pope something like "I like the car, but only if you remove the spoiler at your expense, leaving the rear lid perfect."

That's assuming everything else checks out of course. I'd be investigating the air con (does it work properly, when was the condenser/dryer/regas last done?), the suspension (could be tired at 83k and parts are mega expensive these days), and, well...........all the usual stuff. Don't want to teach you to suck eggs! All such stuff will apply to any car that you buy.

I don't agree with Zingari about the price, I'm afraid. I think the price is about right and the car looks in lovely condition, although I'd have to change the wheels - but that's just me.

Definitely a buyer's market at present - you have the customer power.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter Of Beans wrote:
I agree with Sponge - in a buyer's market I'd be saying to Seymour Pope something like "I like the car, but only if you remove the spoiler at your expense, leaving the rear lid perfect."

That's assuming everything else checks out of course. I'd be investigating the air con (does it work properly, when was the condenser/dryer/regas last done?), the suspension (could be tired at 83k and parts are mega expensive these days), and, well...........all the usual stuff. Don't want to teach you to suck eggs! All such stuff will apply to any car that you buy.

I don't agree with Zingari about the price, I'm afraid. I think the price is about right and the car looks in lovely condition, although I'd have to change the wheels - but that's just me.

Definitely a buyer's market at present - you have the customer power.


I totally agree, throw SP this link. he will instantly know how much this will cost him to get the car sold. Not much!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-993-CARRERA-C2-C4-REAR-ENGINE-LID-DARK-BLUE-SPOILER-GRILL-993-512-117/133334857884?epid=653696645&hash=item1f0b60789c:g:XhAAAOSwtPReSBUU
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That’s my deck lid on eBay. I it got last year when I was fitting a C2S split grill under the mistaken believe that I needed a donor for the OPC kit. It turns out the kit comes complete.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter Of Beans wrote:
I agree with Sponge - in a buyer's market I'd be saying to Seymour Pope something like "I like the car, but only if you remove the spoiler at your expense, leaving the rear lid perfect."

That's assuming everything else checks out of course. I'd be investigating the air con (does it work properly, when was the condenser/dryer/regas last done?), the suspension (could be tired at 83k and parts are mega expensive these days), and, well...........all the usual stuff. Don't want to teach you to suck eggs! All such stuff will apply to any car that you buy.

I don't agree with Zingari about the price, I'm afraid. I think the price is about right and the car looks in lovely condition, although I'd have to change the wheels - but that's just me.

Definitely a buyer's market at present - you have the customer power.


I totally agree, throw SP this link. he will instantly know how much this will cost him to get the car sold. Not much!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-993-CARRERA-C2-C4-REAR-ENGINE-LID-DARK-BLUE-SPOILER-GRILL-993-512-117/133334857884?epid=653696645&hash=item1f0b60789c:g:XhAAAOSwtPReSBUU
 
  
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