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weejimmy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:12 pm    Post subject: Backing Britain for a change? Reply with quote

I am considering moving my 991.2 C4 GTS on for a new AM Vantage. I tried a Vantage on launch and was underwhelmed, but tried one again a few weeks ago and was blown away.

Fit, finish and quality seem to have taken a bit step forwards and the engine made the noise I felt it always should have (quad pipe sports exhaust now Vs twin at launch). Before the sound came and went, but now the lovely V8 bass underpins the entire driving experience. The steering was also sublime and the chassis had a lovely flow.

Traction is way down on the GTS under power (mine being a C4 GTS), but the handling balance was Lotus like. It really surprised me as I expected to think "Meh" again. I can only think that Matt Becker has been hard at work over the last two years!

I generally move on my cars when they are three so the GTS will be going next summer if not before, but for whatever reason I dont really want a 992.

My C4 GTS is a better car. But the Aston is super involving and no slouch. But it is a bit of a step back in time - albeit with everything you really need system wise, but without the big flat screens everyone thinks we all want now. My 991.2 beats it hands down on electronics - a 992 (I've had one on loan) would destroy it! But I don't really want a 992. After two 911's I fancy a change and I dislike how Porsche dealerships are now so focussed on SUV's (I know AM are there now as well).

It used to be that Porsche's were for car enthusiasts. I am not so sure any more.

Am I nuts? Question
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Completely barking, don’t do it!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent idea, do it!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it a go and tell us how it is

the 911 needs some real competition
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You aren’t going to get an unbiased opinion on here. Grin

I say go for it. Too many cars to sample in this life and the new Vantage is stunning. Cool

I’m a diehard 911 fan but even I’m thinking of leaving the brand for a year or two next year. I’m on a lower budget though so the cars I want to own for a while are Morgan Aero 8, Ferrari 360 plus some much older stuff.

Like I say, there are so many fun cars to choose from it’s crazy to not try them. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live down the road from the dealer in Pangbourne and had a good look around one. It’s a horror story interior copied from an 80’s Datsun, I mean really awful and its Mercedes’s engine which is why the motor is so good.

Just buy the Merc. AMG GTR knocks this into the weeks for looks, quality and style. All IMHO of course!
 
  
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991.2GTS
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2008 vantage was a beautiful car, and I thought about it for about 10 minutes. But the new vantage looks odd, the front end is a mess. I’d also search for reliability and build quality issues, as Astons used to have a bit of a reputation. I was talking to a Salesman at OPC Wilmslow who once worked at Stratstone, and he said they dreaded every Aston they sold, because within 20 mins of it leaving the showroom, they’d expect a call.

There’s no way I’d chop my C4 GTS in for one.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taken the Vantage mag since issue 1 and it's surprising how often the 911 - and in the latest edition - the Cayenne are held up as the cars to beat in Aston"s model range as they strive to compete at the top table.

That said, I'd have one in a flash! Just great looking, in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good, worth a try Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
Looks good, worth a try Thumb


First the red leather now this Grin I’m trying to think of words to describe the Ar se end, minging springs to mind Dont know Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Floor

I always try anything once...ask my ex-girlfriends

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audi r8 anyone......my brother in law buys a new aston every three yrs, and gets his arse slapped everytime he chops the old one in, think he lost about 70k last time if my memory serves me right,lovely cars tho
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it and get a manual one.

I don't really care about in-car technology, so it wouldn't bother me at all. It's a sports car, not an entertainment system.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earlier in the year I had an invitation from Aston Martin to drive the new Vantage. It was a very quick, very comfortable GT car, in a straight line. In the corners it lacked the poise and capability of a 911, although I'm sure it would be an excellent cruiser for a European road trip.

If you have an itch, scratch it and have a plan B to get you back in a Porsche if the novelty wears off.....good luck with your choice ... Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love an Aston, but the running costs and reliability seemed like issues to be avoided. And I doubt very much it would work as well as a C4S in a Finnish winter - even if it might be a hoot on a frozen lake for 10 minutes.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saxon46 wrote:
think he lost about 70k last time if my memory serves me right,lovely cars tho


F**k that then Surprised

Hire one for a week of two instead Thumb
 
  
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Hamster75
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the new ones are a bit ugly wouldn't chop a GTS in for one Nay Amos.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Backing Britain for a change?


Mercedes Engine - German
ZF Gearbox - German
40% Parts from UK Suppliers, of those their raw materials are 80% sourced from outside the UK

but it is put together in the UK
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...well that's the nail in the coffin then; put together in Britain by the lazy useless proletariat workforce !
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

911UK wrote:
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Mercedes Engine - German
ZF Gearbox - German
40% Parts from UK Suppliers, of those their raw materials are 80% sourced from outside the UK

but it is put together in the UK


Ahem Dont know Cayenne SUV – a vehicle that currently accounts for roughly half of Porsche sales – manufactured entirely in Bratislava, Slovakia.
 
  
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