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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:03 am    Post subject: Guide to Repairing a PDK Transmission (x-post) Reply with quote

Hi folks,

PV997 just put this excellent thread up on Rennlist. It's a "Guide to Repairing a PDK Transmission"

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/1172826-guide-to-repairing-a-pdk-transmission.html

Well worth a look...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for putting that link up, read through it and it's very interesting. Just wonder how many owners have forked out the deposit for a small house when they could have paid a couple of hundred pounds to have some solenoids replaced.
I've always thought that it was a joke to say that a manual box couldn't be fixed.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This info makes taking a risk on a PDK almost worth it. That's a great write up and well documented as so that a simpleton like me can grasp the concepts
Great find
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDK repair costs were proabably the deciding factor in taking out opc warranty for myself. Very interesting indeed - also the link to the thread about clutch oil changes.

Have always thought PDK cars would eventually become a bit of a time bomb as they age. This info would appear to mitigate alot of those risks.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they like to exaggerate the costs to encourage people to take the warranty out.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very useful and enjoyable read i must say .

If parts can be obtained for these then there is no reason any garage cant work on them .

The lack of any kind of instructions or what possible special tools might be needed is what i guess keeps most garages from fixing these .

I'll just add .. if anyone knows of an old knackered PDK going at a sensible cost then my garage might be interested .. better to do a rebuild on a box like this first to see what tools might be needed and do a little investigation work , we can then decide if its a service we would want to offer .
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be interesting to find out what the OPC's do with their old customer boxes, probably do them on an exch basis.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely only a matter of time before these are being routinely rebuilt “Hartech style” (other rebuilders are available)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not enough demand, IMO.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now only the manual gearbox 3rd gear failures can’t be repaired? Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect sourcing spare parts in UK might be a problem.

Regarding boxes that have been replaced, I believe that OPC’s either return them to Porsche or are instructed to destroy them.

As with many things Porsche, market forces in US seem to inspire a more flexible corporate attitude than in the UK.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnd52 wrote:
I suspect sourcing spare parts in UK might be a problem.

Regarding boxes that have been replaced, I believe that OPC’s either return them to Porsche or are instructed to destroy them.

As with many things Porsche, market forces in US seem to inspire a more flexible corporate attitude than in the UK.


It's the same in the US. Replacement PDKs from the US OPCs are done on a core-exchange basis.

At the time of writing, here's one for $8K NET after the core is returned (otherwise it's an additional $6,300, for a total of $14,300): https://www.sunsetporscheparts.com/oem-parts/porsche-transmission-9g1300011bx

And of course you have to add the labour costs to pull the old one, and put in the replacement.

Labour costs at OPCs vary significantly by region. As low as $100/hr in some areas, to around $225/hr where I live.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid £5055 fitted with VAT at an OPC.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic919 wrote:
I paid £5055 fitted with VAT at an OPC.


Great deal.... although obviously would have been better if you did not need a new one. Did that include any goodwill discount from Porsche?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. It was part Porsche and part OPC. They said £2000.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic919 wrote:
Yes. It was part Porsche and part OPC. They said £2000.


What was the issue with it? How many miles on it? Did you buy the car from an OPC?
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