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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:04 pm    Post subject: Tyre flap on side wall - is it gonna be ok? Reply with quote

[img]https://ibb.co/tQqFKFw[/img]

Looking for advice from any one in the know on this subject.

Can this just be stick back as looks to be the rim protector ?

Or is it a new tyre?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why image hasn’t posted but makes it impossible for any one to comment
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



I wouldn't trust it, even on a Brutsch Mopetta.

Your mileage may vary.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyre flap on side wall - is it gonna be ok? Reply with quote

Hovis wrote:


Can this just be stick back as looks to be the rim protector ?



It's done its job and protected your rim but I'd replace the tyre now as the beading may be damaged. It looks like a well used tyre anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...New tyre.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way would I feel happy if that were on my car, I suggest to be safe, replace it now.You are asking for a blow-out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just stick it back, it'll be fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Alex .. glue it back or or cut it off .. it's the rim protector .. as with any tyre damage the problem is when it's down to the coords... this isn't .

Just to query .. that is the picture of your tyre ??

If not then email yours to me and i'll post it .

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way would I be driving over 30mph on that tyre, that is the sidewall Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Cannop for sorting the picture and for everyone’s input.

Blow out was my concern but figured that as it was the rim protector would be ok and the tyres have still about 6mm tread left.

@demort & Alex any tips on the compound to use to glue it if I go that way?

Still on the topic of wheels and tyres
Been offered some 20” sport techno wheels from a 991.
Off set is different to that on my targa 4 but only a few mm.
Front: 9J ET 51
Rear: 11.5J ET 48

Any one on the board run 20” with any advice?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen super glue before .. this is not uncommon shall we say .. if you don't mind what it looks like then just remove it .. i would prefer that over a glue .
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. The sight of that chunk missing would send me over the edge, let alone any risk associated with it
2. Don't buy the 20" wheels, you'll only regret it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I show you photos of mine after our meet in October.......and the fact it's still on my car......driven like a t**t........you'd all pass out Grin

Local tyre lad tipped half a kilo of rubber out when he fixed my puncture.

Cheeky git charged me extra cos I made him put it back on the car! Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only the rim protector which is essentially additional / excess rubber so there's plenty of material left there before you even get to the structural carcass of the tyre.

I've seen loads of flaps stuck down with glue or mastic etc. And I've seen "tyre rim protector cut or torn" as an MOT advisory, whereas tyre sidewall damage is a failure - the rim protector is not the sidewall.

You could get a micrometer and measure the thickness of an undamaged section of the tyre and compare it to the thickness left with the flap lifted and see how much has been compromised.

Difficult to tell just from the picture, but it would concern me marginally more on a budget tyre than a premium one, but still my concern would be minimal.

But if it's going to keep you up at night then get your wallet out. And presumably you'll be wanting to replace the full axle set....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick it back down and it'll be fine. The strength of a tyre is down to the textile plies under the outer rubber layer and you're nowhere near them yet. You'll know when you get down to them as they look like threads (polyester/nylon/kevlar)
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

13 years ago I took a much larger chunk out of the rim protector area of a rear tyre on my 330d estate, I went to Pro Tyre in Gloucester and I had to leave the wheel/tyre with them and the sent it off for a hot vulcanising process (which as I understand it is basically bonding rubber to it to bring it up to the same thickness again.

Apart from the writing/symbols missing around the area of the repair it looked like a full tyre again and it stayed on the car for many thousand of miles and was still on when I sold the car.

I've had a quick look at Pro Tyre's website but there doesn't seem to be anything about repairs on there now...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My MOT station says the same as deMort. Its just the sidewall protection if no canvas is showing.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hovis wrote:


Still on the topic of wheels and tyres
Been offered some 20” sport techno wheels from a 991.
Off set is different to that on my targa 4 but only a few mm.
Front: 9J ET 51
Rear: 11.5J ET 48

Any one on the board run 20” with any advice?


After recently trying out 20inch Carrera Classic 2s from a 991 on my 997 to save yourself a lot of hassle & possible expense id drop the idea completely , they ruined the handling & the et 51 9j front needs a tyre like a rubber band to avoid rubbing on full lock what
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the heads up on the 991 wheels.

Will give them a miss
 
  
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