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Stoddy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:36 am    Post subject: Goodbye baby goodbye. Reply with quote

Ok, so Henry will be going to market.
My hunt for a lower miles, 997.1 or possibly a 2 is on.

Wish list.
997.1 C2 Coupe.
2004-2005 ( don’t want the higher tax bracket)
Max 60,000 miles.
Blue/Red/Grey/Silver
Black or dark red Interior (Would consider grey or sand?)
Sports seats.
3.6 or possibly 3.8 but with reputable re build.
Manual.
Cruise
Lobster claw wheels ( others considered of course)


Because this will be my daily driver, it needs to be mechanically sorted, so even if there’s a wee bit of fettling needed with the body or interior, it’ll still get me to work ......... and back.

As well as daily duty, I do enjoy the odd blatt around the Welsh or Scottish roads, I’ll probably fit a sports exhaust and possibly lower the car slightly.

If I can stretch to a Gen 2, is it worth it? I guess I need to drive one eh?

For the right money, I’d consider a Cat D. Is that madness?

Any advice or opinions very welcome.
I’ve thought long and hard about re building Henry’s engine but because he’s a daily, I think I’ll just be chasing my tail with repairs as he heads towards the 200,000 mile mark. If he were a weekender, no problem but that feeling of being on the M6 and wondering if the alternators about to give up or the water pump, or the whatever is just too stressful.

167,000 miles, pampered, honest, cherished, fettled and regularly used and loved 996 C2, soon to hit the market place.

Look forward to this lovely forums thoughts.



Rich.




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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can stretch to a Gen2 car, I would.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you travel for the right car? Seems to tick all your boxes!

https://www.northway.co.uk/used/porsche/997/s-2dr/reading/berkshire/19118519/

Poor Henry. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to have done your homework re the 997, good luck in the search my only thought is as you clearly do lots of miles as a daily dont pay a premium for a very low mile car as you will lose that very quickly. personally knowing 7k miles pa is considered Porsche ave miles I would be using that as my guide , oh yes and ideally a post march 06 car to be 100% you got the newer better IMS , if your looking 05 use the engine number guide to know if you have the newer IMS . Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
If you can stretch to a Gen2 car, I would.

Happy Hunting Thumb


Cheers, I’ll have to convince the long haired general but I hear ya!

Laughing
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X 944 S2 Cab (Miller)
X 3.2 Carrera (Gordon)
X 3.4 Cayman (George)
 
  
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Stoddy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
Would you travel for the right car? Seems to tick all your boxes!

https://www.northway.co.uk/used/porsche/997/s-2dr/reading/berkshire/19118519/

Poor Henry. Sad


That looks stunning!

I’m freelance, so finish this job in December. They seem to be a good reputable place!


Cheers,



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
You seem to have done your homework re the 997, good luck in the search my only thought is as you clearly do lots of miles as a daily dont pay a premium for a very low mile car as you will lose that very quickly. personally knowing 7k miles pa is considered Porsche ave miles I would be using that as my guide , oh yes and ideally a post march 06 car to be 100% you got the newer better IMS , if your looking 05 use the engine number guide to know if you have the newer IMS . Thumb



Nice one Phil,

Good advice, many thanks!



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats is your budget
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Phil 997..... 3.6 is a safer bet as already said check engine numbers for larger IMS and don't forget middle of March tax was 315 after that it went up to 550
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stoddy wrote:
T8 wrote:
If you can stretch to a Gen2 car, I would.

Happy Hunting Thumb


Cheers, I’ll have to convince the long haired general but I hear ya!

Laughing


Just make sure the gen 2 is the same colour Job done Grin Thumb She doesnt need to know #bosh
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Apparently other colours are available?

 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Stoddy wrote:
T8 wrote:
If you can stretch to a Gen2 car, I would.

Happy Hunting Thumb


Cheers, I’ll have to convince the long haired general but I hear ya!

Laughing


Just make sure the gen 2 is the same colour Job done Grin Thumb She doesnt need to know #bosh



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X 944 S2 Cab (Miller)
X 3.2 Carrera (Gordon)
X 3.4 Cayman (George)
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Stoddy wrote:
T8 wrote:
If you can stretch to a Gen2 car, I would.

Happy Hunting Thumb


Cheers, I’ll have to convince the long haired general but I hear ya!

Laughing


Just make sure the gen 2 is the same colour Job done Grin Thumb She doesnt need to know #bosh


Floor Floor Floor bless them if only they knew Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the Engine numbers for the newer IMS bearing , hope this helps on your search . Thumb


Last IMS revision before no IMS (Gen2 MA1 block):

997 Carrera 3.6 with engine numbers from M96/0569507475 are the new IMS design.

M96/05 = 997 3.6 Carrera NA
6 = 6 cylinders
9 = design revision
5 = year (2005)
07475 = cumulative production serial

This means some MY2005 benefit and all MY2006 onwards benefit.


997 Carrera S 3.8 with engine numbers from M97/0168509790 are the new IMS design.

M97/01 = 997 3.8 Carrera NA
6 = 6 cylinders
8 = design revision
5 = year (2005)
09790 = cumulative production serial

This means some MY2005 benefit and all MY2006 onwards benefit.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
Would you travel for the right car? Seems to tick all your boxes!

https://www.northway.co.uk/used/porsche/997/s-2dr/reading/berkshire/19118519/

Poor Henry. Sad



^^^ Job jobbed.

Manual S, in a good colour combo, with sensible miles plus a rebuild. I can’t a actually think of a better £25k 911.

Good luck Stoddy. As per your other thread, I think a change is the wise move. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

love154 wrote:
Whats is your budget


this...I think a lot depends on your budget as to which is the best to go for.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quick look on AT and a Gen 2 for < £30k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910163382341?advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2009&radius=1500&postcode=st90ap&sort=price-asc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=911&make=PORSCHE&page=1
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackTurbo wrote:
love154 wrote:
Whats is your budget


this...I think a lot depends on your budget as to which is the best to go for.



Budget is around 25K, maybe slightly more depending on what Henry fetches.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

villaman wrote:
quick look on AT and a Gen 2 for < £30k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910163382341?advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2009&radius=1500&postcode=st90ap&sort=price-asc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=911&make=PORSCHE&page=1



Oh God that’s gorgeous!!!!!

How do the gen 2’s drive do we think?


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X 944 S2 Cab (Miller)
X 3.2 Carrera (Gordon)
X 3.4 Cayman (George)
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks absolutely fab, great colour combination. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stoddy wrote:
villaman wrote:
quick look on AT and a Gen 2 for < £30k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910163382341?advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2009&radius=1500&postcode=st90ap&sort=price-asc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=911&make=PORSCHE&page=1



Oh God that’s gorgeous!!!!!

How do the gen 2’s drive do we think?


Stoddy.


Showing as sold already... either Stoddy moved V fast or we have to keep looking!
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