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truckseller
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:41 pm    Post subject: Back in the saddle Reply with quote

Sold my last 997 gen 2 ,4 years ago and been missing one lately. Always liked the 996 ! Bought a 1999 3.4 6 speed manual with sun roof , 113 miles and service history, drove it to Porsche specialist for check over, service and MOT.
Just hoping it's ok and can't wait to start using it as much as possible!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's some serious low mileage Grin

thumbsup Welcome back!!

........and the right car too Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will no if it's the right choice when the garage ring up with the condition report.

I bought the 3 x 997,s this way and it worked out!

Looks like the last owner spent quite a bit on the last 2 services at OPC and some good quality paint work.

Felt like a proper car!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Alex was pointing to the 113 miles. I assume you mean 113k?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is 113,000 just run in !!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...113k and just run in Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMG wrote:
...113k and just run in Floor



I was waiting for that.

142k here and its still not exploded. I must be one of the 90% minority nooo
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...because it's a fact !

The M96/7 engine isn't "just run in" at 80k plus miles; quite the opposite. In all likelihood it's " running out" ... of time and crank bearing , bore,timing chain guide material,

It's simply unhelpful and frankly conveniently delusional to peddle rhetoric about misinformation that suits owners of high milers (80k plus)

Consequently I shall continue to assert some reality and objectivity in this perversely sensitive area...
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I had my IMS bearing, chains, chain guides & cams all checked out recently and they're mint Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drip... drip.... drip...

GMG = Chinese water torture
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Driving style plays a bigger part in engine wear of these cars than mileage does.

And there's no measure or documentation to back that up.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...The definition of CWT is people who occupy the space between reality and fantasy...typically these people own high milers or have yet to experience the joy and expense of failure thus desperately clinging onto the possibility that all the hype about these engines is inaccurate despite the fact that numerous specialists are rebuilding and fixing them on an almost industrial scale...or that Hartech, the recognised experts by the very same people, are recommending / suggesting early remedial rebuilds...

And Alex didn't you once suggest yours has been rebuilt as your Indy said that he had NEVER seen such clean and unworn timing gear on an engine of your age and mileage?!

And as you will have figured by now I am immune to the typical blind forum
ignorance regarding their precious marque thus sadly for those that take exception to my posts...tough; I shall continue to say what I see


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll bet you £50 that the majority of engines Hartech rebuild are under 100k miles. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...please keep it Alex as payment for proving my point Hand
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grin Thumb

My point was these engines can need a rebuild at any age or mileage, so your comment about high mileahe rebuild deniers is incorrect. They may all need a rebuild at any age or mileage, especially the M97 3.8 and to and to deny that is just the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets be honest. There are stacks of 996's and Boxsters for sale. Most have been well used and have highish miles, 100k+ or so. Look through the classifieds and you will struggle to find many cars with sub 60k mileage.
That indicates, to me anyway, that the vast majority of these cars will do plenty of miles before they go pop. However, stating that a car with 113k miles is only just run in is a bit fanciful.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a joke comment folk say all the time. Its just having a laugh yet some members read it as gospel.

You only have to google just run in and see how many times 100k pops up.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a joke on a Porsche forum, not on a Mercedes forum.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bloody joke !!!!!

I know 113000 miles is high mileage but you roll the dice and take a chance !!!!!

I only mentioned I had bought the car on here because I was excited to have one again, I forgot how obsessed some of you geeks are with the engine failure issue.

It might fail, parts of the UK might flood, we might leave the EU and Boris Johnson might be PM, Trump might become the most powerful man in the world !!!! oh dear these have all happened.

Talk about the car and the enjoyment, we are presumably all over 40 years old, anything could happen, live for the moment !!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone should be cracking jokes about high mileage 996's.
It's a very serious matter indeed. Laughing
It's a well known fact that these engines simply do not go over 100k miles without a comprehensive rebuild. Anyone who says otherwise is telling fibs.
I know this is true because I read it on the internet. Laughing
 
  
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