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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject: GT2RS crashing into Pagani at Monza Reply with quote

The repair bill will be eye watering. I just hope they both have the relevant insurance.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the guy in the RS thinking about Surprised carrying a tad too much into the corner
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
What was the guy in the RS thinking about Surprised carrying a tad too much into the corner


Just hope he's got track day ins
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of a worry how easily that door pops open Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see in the face of adversity the Porsche held its line. Good driving skills. Floor
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We’ve all lent on other cars to get round bends in the past, just generally they have no more than a few hundred CC or they don’t physically exist at all.

Ouch!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suspect the next 30 seconds of that video got very interesting!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

barty964rst wrote:
Good to see in the face of adversity the Porsche held its line. Good driving skills. Floor


pmsl at that post Grin

Those guys really messed-up, esp the GT2 driver
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one that thinks the Pagani was way too slow on the way into the corner and caught the GT2 driver out Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kurlykris wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the Pangani was way too slow on the way into the corner and caught the GT2 driver out Dont know


Was my first thought & after a 2nd/3rd watch it looks even more so .
Looked to be almost free wheeling compared to the other cars at track speed Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a mess!! The Pagani driver was probably reminiscing about cruising around the French Riviera again!!

And I assume the GT2RS driver was Instagramming a snap of his Rolex DeepMuffDweller against his steering wheel as he didn't seem to be braking very hard and took no real evasive action (there's an escape lane straight on just there). To be fair though, since that turn is sort half way down a very long straight it is possible he didn't realise the turn was right there until the Pagani kindly directed him to it....

Anyway I see schadenfreude is alive and well as you can hear someone behind the camera laughing at about 12 seconds... nooo

These vids always end too soon - I reckon the next minute or so would be more akin to Grand Theft Auto than Forza... Star Wars
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..... that was never going to end well ....... nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT2 driver should have been more aware - looked like he was steaming in and just hadn't worked out how slow the Pagani was going....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pagani, or no Pagani, he wasn't making that corner. That's an awefully big stop , and one can only hope that it was a mechanical/brake fluid issue rather than bad judgement.
I've not got experience of trying to pull up to almost nothing from what I can only imagine is near enough 190mph, but would like to think that the PCCB are up to the job.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't look that fast to me...

The Pagani looks to be going about 30-40mph and the GT2 about 60-70?

It was a glancing blow as well so maybe it didn't do too much structural damage.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wh1t3Kn1ght wrote:
Didn't look that fast to me...

The Pagani looks to be going about 30-40mph and the GT2 about 60-70?

It was a glancing blow as well so maybe it didn't do too much structural damage.
That was the impression I got. Easy to say and no necessarily correct from a single camera POV of the event, but it did look that way.

For those who've never been involved in a track shunt, you can say what you want, but until you've come across a car cruising, on the racing line, it's hard to explain how dangerous it can be. I know a number of very experienced drivers - far, far more capable than myself (I go too slowly to get into these situations) - who have had similar incidents.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wh1t3Kn1ght wrote:
Didn't look that fast to me...

The Pagani looks to be going about 30-40mph and the GT2 about 60-70?

It was a glancing blow as well so maybe it didn't do too much structural damage.


That corner is the slowest on the circuit. I've driven Monza a couple of times and even for a 996 GT3 on slicks that's a 155 MPH to 40-50 MPH stop plus the second half is actually a bit slower as it's a very tight exit. There's no way on earth that GT2RS is going to make the corner carrying the speed he was, particularly using the entry point he chose on the "wrong" side of the track.

ETA: I just looked at my data trace & I'm doing around 40ish at the first (RH) apex and low 30s on the exit kerb after the LH corner of the chicane. Like I said, it's a deceptively slow chicane. Even the F1 boys can't go all that fast round it.
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