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NLW73
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MaxA
Albert Park
Joined: 11 Oct 2015
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Location: Helsinki
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| Phil 997 wrote: | Sorry gents when I said its NA with a blower I meant it has the sound of an NA car compared to the sort of whoosh note the turbo has ,so you can still achieve the GT type sound track . but I am as surprised as everyone that the GT bubble seems to have peaked and the prices starting to be more realistic 65K for a 997 GT3 seems much more realistic.  |
Phil. Let me take you out in my little Eaton M45 supercharged Mini. It doesn't sound anything like an NA, it whines throuigh the revs, and at 7200 it's basically shrieking at the front end while roaring at the rear - I've got a John Cooper Motorsport MINI Challenge (i.e. race) 4-2-1 manifold with a sports cat and the John Cooper Works exhaust from the cat back. This is basically the best combination you can put on a 1st gen (and the JCM is a rare thing). I might even have some drive-by video clips somewhere.
And yes, I'd love a GT for 65kGBP. I could even afford that if I sold my LHD C4S for what the insurers think it is worth in this market.
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Robert SausageTrousers
Monza
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I've had many supercharged cars and none have sounded remotely like an NA car, superchargers have a very loud and unique sound.
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Phil 997
Le Mans
Joined: 05 Dec 2015
Posts: 15732
Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S
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Thanks for your thoughts Max and Robert , I will bow to your knowledge as I was under the impression that the modern blowers were not loud and screamy, unlike the old school blowers that stuck up through the Bonnet that were .
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ninenineseven
Trainee
Joined: 24 Apr 2018
Posts: 85
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Doesn't "condition inspected" mean it was once an insurance write off and since sent to autolign for inspection to get the marker removed 
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RXP.
Monza
Joined: 24 Oct 2017
Posts: 220
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look at what this thread has done to us C11bra.
Its bought out the worst in the best of us.
in times like these there is simply only one thing to do.
grabs car keys
Drive hard! *
* Speed limits should be adhered to at all times. Reckless driving may result in a fine of imprisonment.
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MaxA
Albert Park
Joined: 11 Oct 2015
Posts: 1714
Location: Helsinki
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| Phil 997 wrote: | | Thanks for your thoughts Max and Robert , I will bow to your knowledge as I was under the impression that the modern blowers were not loud and screamy, unlike the old school blowers that stuck up through the Bonnet that were . |
I don't know about modern blowers (the last time I drove a Merc with a "kompressor" and no intercooler, it was a very distant whine), but an Eaton M45 isn't that new (my old project car dates back to 2006), and there are two reasons it sounds like a banshee: one it has a new cold air intake with an additional intake right behind the firewall (which acts like a sound channel) and two, the poor little thing is spinning up so fast with a reduced pulley that it overboosts on occasion...
I need to go and test drive one of those supercharged V6 Jag F types.
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C4Silver
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 14 Aug 2019
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Location: Yorkshire
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I’ve had a few Golf Rallyes and they make one hell of a howl, especially when you replace the pulley for something much smaller !
The little G40 used make a demonic howl as well,
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Phil 997
Le Mans
Joined: 05 Dec 2015
Posts: 15732
Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S
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So back on subject have you seen Jimi is selling an aero lid with the scoops and gurney strip like you were looking at http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=136615
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C11BRA
Hockenheim
Joined: 30 Mar 2015
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Location: North London. Herts.
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Thanks Phil
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isysman
Zolder
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nigel99
Barcelona
Joined: 16 Jul 2015
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Location: Berkshire
2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S
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Or you could buy a Cayman S and make it look like a GT4 
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isysman
Zolder
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T8
General
Joined: 29 Jun 2010
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Location: Kent
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I couldn't believe the price ............. until I saw that it's on the register. 
Still a great car for someone though.
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Marky911
Sepang
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| nigel99 wrote: | | Or you could buy a Cayman S and make it look like a GT4 |
Harsh but fair.
Re the GT3 vs GT4, having spent a fair bit of time in both the GT4 is a nicer road car and still great on track. I love GT4s.
Having said that, from a nerdy point of view the I’d have to choose the GT3 for the motorsport engine. GT4, sounds good and goes well but it’s just the Carrera engine.
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C11BRA
Hockenheim
Joined: 30 Mar 2015
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Location: North London. Herts.
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Anyway.
I fitted my new tail lamps today. Keeping it genuine (stop laughing) & non LED.
Decided to go on another road trip today. Just to test them.....of course.
Went for a fancy pants lunch on one of the restored forts 1 mile out to sea in the Solent.
Incredible experience and great access to a historic building. Free to roam in the wall gaps called the bolt hole. Right up my street.
Beautifully restored & great staff. Photo from inside the lighthouse.
Highly recommend for a random day out.
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isysman
Zolder
Joined: 22 Apr 2011
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Red lights look good. Well worth the money.
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RXP.
Monza
Joined: 24 Oct 2017
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new rear lights look good.
How much and from where?
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C11BRA
Hockenheim
Joined: 30 Mar 2015
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| RXP. wrote: | new rear lights look good.
How much and from where? |
EBay. £££ bargain.
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2006 997.1. Project GT3C. C stands for ???
2018 Audi A4 Avant Black Edition.
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Ex Ram Cobra V8.
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RXP.
Monza
Joined: 24 Oct 2017
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oh wow. Well done.
I did consider returning back to oem and either keeping them as is or doing red laminex or something similar, however i fear it would look pants so either oem or all red oems.
I am kinda done with the led jobbies ( came with the car along with oems )
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