Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 1672 Location: Helsinki
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 am Post subject:
Phil 997 wrote:
Sorry gents when I said its NA with a blower I meant it has the sound of an NA car compared to the sort of whoosh note the turbo has ,so you can still achieve the GT type sound track . but I am as surprised as everyone that the GT bubble seems to have peaked and the prices starting to be more realistic 65K for a 997 GT3 seems much more realistic.
Phil. Let me take you out in my little Eaton M45 supercharged Mini. It doesn't sound anything like an NA, it whines throuigh the revs, and at 7200 it's basically shrieking at the front end while roaring at the rear - I've got a John Cooper Motorsport MINI Challenge (i.e. race) 4-2-1 manifold with a sports cat and the John Cooper Works exhaust from the cat back. This is basically the best combination you can put on a 1st gen (and the JCM is a rare thing). I might even have some drive-by video clips somewhere.
And yes, I'd love a GT for 65kGBP. I could even afford that if I sold my LHD C4S for what the insurers think it is worth in this market. _________________ 997.2 Carrera4S: white over blue, driven and tracked, seldom clean.
Robert SausageTrousers Monza
Joined: 02 Apr 2018 Posts: 239
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:58 am Post subject:
I've had many supercharged cars and none have sounded remotely like an NA car, superchargers have a very loud and unique sound.
Phil 997 Le Mans
Joined: 05 Dec 2015 Posts: 15573 Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
Thanks for your thoughts Max and Robert , I will bow to your knowledge as I was under the impression that the modern blowers were not loud and screamy, unlike the old school blowers that stuck up through the Bonnet that were . _________________ 911 Owners,Some Invest In The Future,
Others Enjoy The Moment Today.
Doesn't "condition inspected" mean it was once an insurance write off and since sent to autolign for inspection to get the marker removed
RXP. Monza
Joined: 24 Oct 2017 Posts: 215
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:46 pm Post subject:
look at what this thread has done to us C11bra.
Its bought out the worst in the best of us.
in times like these there is simply only one thing to do.
grabs car keys
Drive hard! *
* Speed limits should be adhered to at all times. Reckless driving may result in a fine of imprisonment.
MaxA Albert Park
Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 1672 Location: Helsinki
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:09 pm Post subject:
Phil 997 wrote:
Thanks for your thoughts Max and Robert , I will bow to your knowledge as I was under the impression that the modern blowers were not loud and screamy, unlike the old school blowers that stuck up through the Bonnet that were .
I don't know about modern blowers (the last time I drove a Merc with a "kompressor" and no intercooler, it was a very distant whine), but an Eaton M45 isn't that new (my old project car dates back to 2006), and there are two reasons it sounds like a banshee: one it has a new cold air intake with an additional intake right behind the firewall (which acts like a sound channel) and two, the poor little thing is spinning up so fast with a reduced pulley that it overboosts on occasion...
I need to go and test drive one of those supercharged V6 Jag F types. _________________ 997.2 Carrera4S: white over blue, driven and tracked, seldom clean.
C4Silver Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 14 Aug 2019 Posts: 273
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:51 pm Post subject:
I’ve had a few Golf Rallyes and they make one hell of a howl, especially when you replace the pulley for something much smaller !
The little G40 used make a demonic howl as well,
Phil 997 Le Mans
Joined: 05 Dec 2015 Posts: 15573 Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
So back on subject have you seen Jimi is selling an aero lid with the scoops and gurney strip like you were looking at http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=136615 _________________ 911 Owners,Some Invest In The Future,
Others Enjoy The Moment Today.
C11BRA Hockenheim
Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Posts: 633 Location: North London. Herts.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:36 am Post subject:
Thanks Phil _________________ 2006 997.1 C2 man. Totally standard. Honest?
2018 Audi A4 Avant Black Edition.
Ex 996 C2 Man.
Ex Ram Cobra V8.
Ex Series 1 RS Turbo.
Or you could buy a Cayman S and make it look like a GT4 _________________ Current: 997.2 C2S, Audi TTS mk3
Previous: Cayman 987.1, Audi TT mk1 , BMW e46
I couldn't believe the price ............. until I saw that it's on the register.
Still a great car for someone though. _________________ 2007 Guards Red 997 Turbo Tiptronic
ex 2004 Polar Silver 996T Tiptronic
ex 2002 Seal Grey 996.2 C4 Tiptronic
ex 1978 Silver 924 Manual
Marky911 Magny-Cours
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 2666
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:44 pm Post subject:
nigel99 wrote:
Or you could buy a Cayman S and make it look like a GT4
Harsh but fair.
Re the GT3 vs GT4, having spent a fair bit of time in both the GT4 is a nicer road car and still great on track. I love GT4s.
Having said that, from a nerdy point of view the I’d have to choose the GT3 for the motorsport engine. GT4, sounds good and goes well but it’s just the Carrera engine.
C11BRA Hockenheim
Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Posts: 633 Location: North London. Herts.
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:55 pm Post subject:
Anyway.
I fitted my new tail lamps today. Keeping it genuine (stop laughing) & non LED.
Decided to go on another road trip today. Just to test them.....of course.
Went for a fancy pants lunch on one of the restored forts 1 mile out to sea in the Solent.
Incredible experience and great access to a historic building. Free to roam in the wall gaps called the bolt hole. Right up my street.
Beautifully restored & great staff. Photo from inside the lighthouse.
Highly recommend for a random day out. _________________ 2006 997.1 C2 man. Totally standard. Honest?
2018 Audi A4 Avant Black Edition.
Ex 996 C2 Man.
Ex Ram Cobra V8.
Ex Series 1 RS Turbo.
Red lights look good. Well worth the money. _________________ 911 GT2RS Build & 981 Boxster S
Sold ~ 987 Boxster S 3.4, 997.1 3.8 Cab, 987 3.2 Boxster S, 986 Boxster 2.5
RXP. Monza
Joined: 24 Oct 2017 Posts: 215
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:14 am Post subject:
new rear lights look good.
How much and from where?
C11BRA Hockenheim
Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Posts: 633 Location: North London. Herts.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:54 pm Post subject:
RXP. wrote:
new rear lights look good.
How much and from where?
EBay. £££ bargain. _________________ 2006 997.1 C2 man. Totally standard. Honest?
2018 Audi A4 Avant Black Edition.
Ex 996 C2 Man.
Ex Ram Cobra V8.
Ex Series 1 RS Turbo.
RXP. Monza
Joined: 24 Oct 2017 Posts: 215
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:41 am Post subject:
oh wow. Well done.
I did consider returning back to oem and either keeping them as is or doing red laminex or something similar, however i fear it would look pants so either oem or all red oems.
I am kinda done with the led jobbies ( came with the car along with oems )
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