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Gazc2
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a dripping radaitor so it was time to move to the front end and start stripping it out I had previously used "The Rocks" guide to cleaning the radiators which gives you a step by step to get the front bumper off there are 2 spring loaded clips beside the headlights which are a real pain to pull out.

Now I cleaned these out about 2 years ago again it wasn't pretty when I got the covers off Sad I don't like the look of the zunnsport grills however may have to bite the bullet or come up with another solution.

So now have the drivers side Rad and condensors removed which was all pretty straightforward I am also changing the middle rad but that's 2 morrows job to get that out.
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darkhorse
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
No "O" rings pictures look a bit like o rings but its actually the thread on the plug Thumb


Ah yes, I see it now. Looks like its making good progress. Work list still growing lol
 
  
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Gazc2
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkhorse wrote:
Gazc2 wrote:
No "O" rings pictures look a bit like o rings but its actually the thread on the plug Thumb


Ah yes, I see it now. Looks like its making good progress. Work list still growing lol


Think I am on the home stretch got the horns changed out today which was Why I started this in the first place nooo also got the center RAD changed out so seeing some light at the end of the tunnel.

you not got the beast fired up yet ?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep getting within touching distance then finding something else! :O Was putting the intercoolers back on, thought I would pressure test them, and found that the side with the dodgy turbo had some small holes in the core .....

Cue a set of aftermarket ebay specials that didnt fit the frames correctly (they were decent quality though!) , then a set of good used oem that turned out to be from a LHD car (the locating lugs on one end are wrong).
So I decided to strip and repaint the frames (+weld new studs on for the heatshields as I had the time with all the time waiting for incorrect parts), new hardware on them and now waiting for a new OEM intercooler on tuesday. I've even got a wheel on one side at the back as that side is done Very Happy ..as soon as the new intercooler is on, it will be start up time. Will update my thread . Hoping it will be test drive time then and then I can get to enjoy the car a bit before the next job I find!
 
  
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Gazc2
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That all sounds a bit frustrating with the intercoolers however your not far away now Thumb

I ordered up some bits and pieces from OPC some prices below for reference

4wd controller oil 00004330540 £30.70 + vat (1L)

Sill clips 99950798640 £3.48 + vat I broke some of these when I pulled the sills off

Clamp that the sill clips attach to (mine were all fairly rusty) 6 (although Pet shows 9) per side £1.31 + vat

Speednut 91242501 £0.39 + vat
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1986 944 2.5 (later fitted with a 2.7 after wife went scuba diving in a flood and popped a piston through the block)

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darkhorse
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good.
Have you decided on the vents?
 
  
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Gazc2
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have ordered some mesh to fit on the inside Its slightly bigger than I wanted however the smaller stuff was going to take a month from China so I will wait and see what it it looks like should get it next week so that will be a job to do over the holidays. The rennline kit looks just the job however £300 for 3 bits of mesh and some clips Surprised
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1986 3.3 Turbo
1986 944 2.5 (later fitted with a 2.7 after wife went scuba diving in a flood and popped a piston through the block)
 
  
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darkhorse
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
I have ordered some mesh to fit on the inside Its slightly bigger than I wanted however the smaller stuff was going to take a month from China so I will wait and see what it it looks like should get it next week so that will be a job to do over the holidays. The rennline kit looks just the job however £300 for 3 bits of mesh and some clips Surprised


Indeed, £300 is Porsche tax and no mistake!!
Look forward to seeing how that turns out. It will be on my to do list I think as well! Still waiting on a darned intercooler at my end!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the sub frame bases back from the powder coaters so will get them refitted tomorrow. The shorter front ones were meant to be silver and they done them black not to worry a lot better than they were.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
Got the sub frame bases back from the powder coaters so will get them refitted tomorrow. The shorter front ones were meant to be silver and they done them black not to worry a lot better than they were.


Looking good. Regards the long ones, are you replacing the clips with threads that the brake cooling ducts screw into? I wanted to replace mine but not sure if they are available without the crossbar piece?
 
  
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Gazc2
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The clips were in ok condition and have survived the blasting/coating so I`m not going to change them, they don't show on PET as a separate item so would probably need a hunt on ebay for an alternative.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sub frame struts refitted all looking a bit tidier, and the middle and right hand side RADs changed out and new AC condensors fitted, just waiting on the vacuum pump to arrive to fill with coolant and do a pressure test on the system.

I have a new drier to fit as well although haven't tracked this down yet I am assuming its up in the scuttle area beside the battery ?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked up the liquid gold from Porsche just before xmas so got the all wheel drive controller oil changed out like the diffs it didn't look to bad the new stuff is very light coloured and seems quite runny, so that is all the underfloor fluids changed out.

I removed the old sill clips gave the sills a coating of ACF 50 and stuck the new clips on, still got the pass side to do. The paint on the sill is not scratched its light from the flash.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good progress. And on boxing day too!
Are you planning on vacuum filling it?
 
  
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Gazc2
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the vacuum route however first time I pressurised it there was a leak as it wouldn't hold which is a bit of a dilemma how do you find a leak when there is no water or air pressure in the system ? anyway checked what I could and nothing obvious, the cheap Nielson vacuum pump I got from ebay didn't last long somewhere between putting it on the car once and laying it down on the bench the small knurled part on the release valve sheared off !.

So back to square one , filled the system ran the car with the heater on this highlighted where my leak was the bottom hose on the drivers side rad was not seated properly which was quickly fixed I kept checking for heat in the front hoses giving them a squeeze to pump and feel the coolant moving ,done this a couple of times topping up as I went this all seemed fine got heat in the car and hoses and no leaks so hopefully good to go however will need to take it for a run and re-check.

how did you get on filling yours ?
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darkhorse
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
I tried the vacuum route however first time I pressurised it there was a leak as it wouldn't hold which is a bit of a dilemma how do you find a leak when there is no water or air pressure in the system ? anyway checked what I could and nothing obvious, the cheap Nielson vacuum pump I got from ebay didn't last long somewhere between putting it on the car once and laying it down on the bench the small knurled part on the release valve sheared off !.

So back to square one , filled the system ran the car with the heater on this highlighted where my leak was the bottom hose on the drivers side rad was not seated properly which was quickly fixed I kept checking for heat in the front hoses giving them a squeeze to pump and feel the coolant moving ,done this a couple of times topping up as I went this all seemed fine got heat in the car and hoses and no leaks so hopefully good to go however will need to take it for a run and re-check.

how did you get on filling yours ?


I used a fleabay tester kit that came with a pressure test adapater as well, so I pressurised the system to whatever was the correct amount and then if there are any leaks you can spray some LDF (gas leak detector) on joints or just soapy water (I prefer LDF though), and where it bubbles you have the leak.
As far as vac tester, I dont think you can find a leak from that; you just know it has a leak lol

Did you drain the engine from the bleed bolts on the lower coolant elbows at the back? as well as pulling the big Henn couplers under the car?
It doesnt empty the whole system anyway as mine proves (I should have pulled hoses from front rads which I would have done if it was on a lift; but couldnt get to them easily) Sounds fine the way you have done it; I couldnt pull more than about 0.7 bar vacuum because my compressor was too weedy (and I had water somewhere up front I think). So I got 20 litres in after that, all heaters work nicely etc but I need to take it on a proper run as the flow to the front rads is hot but the return is luke warm and fans havent kicked in yet. Did your fans kick in? Im going to check them with durametric and if they come on which they should, I will probably drive it at that as I didnt leave it at 3k rpm for X minutes as I think your meant to , to get the fans on. Currently the temp wil not go past the middle marker on the gauge

The last time on a car of mine where the fan didnt come on (a road car with a race motor) I didnt notice until the temp was headed for the red !
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt drain the system completely when I removed the radiators and captured about a buckets worth of coolant,its taken about 12liters the fans have kicked in when it got just above the center, like yours the return pipes at the front are mildly warm.

I had the bleeder valve in the vertical position when the car was sitting ticking over.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazc2 wrote:
I didnt drain the system completely when I removed the radiators and captured about a buckets worth of coolant,its taken about 12liters the fans have kicked in when it got just above the center, like yours the return pipes at the front are mildly warm.

I had the bleeder valve in the vertical position when the car was sitting ticking over.

I probably just need to he a bit more patient then letting the fans kick in. Good to hear you didnt need to drain the lot because I will be checking the front rads next. Indeed, bleeders still open on mine. Was going to close it after a few drives
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a couple of rolls of this mesh to fit some grills to the front bumper a smaller mesh might be the preffered option but this was all I could get delivered in time over the holidays.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Grille-Mesh-Sheet-Grid-Universal-Body-Bumper-Rhombic-Grill-Mesh-40X13inch/193073488388?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

The center one is pretty straightforward I folded up the edge all the way round and used the channel round the grill to wedge this in and then held in place with some self tappers here and there.

The side ones take a bit more time to shape and cut again I used the channel round the edge to hold the folded edge, it gets more awkward at the slats as they are raised involves a bit of cutting and folding.
Happy with the finished result hopefully a bit of protection for the rads.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good progress there gazc2.
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