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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ishay wrote:


T8, how widely are you advertising your car at that price.



It's only for sale on here and I haven't even raised a proper advert. Embarassed

I'd need £47.5k to make the 'cost to change' anything like palatable to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTS for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTS for me, had a Turbo for a brief time but didn't know what all the fuss was about with them, rapid in a straight line but that was about it for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTS, brilliant all rounder👍
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackTurbo wrote:
Also I assume from people views they also believe a Turbo will do better on residuals 12 months from now?

A turbo will do better over a similar Carrera but I think a GTS would do just fine, get the one you like Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTS - the sound and ability to wring its neck more in the UK

Turbos are just too mad for this country and best in Germany on the ABs

Plus lots more things on them to go wrong
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for the GTS; try to find as high a spec as possible.

I have had mine for over 5 years now and its simply the best car I have ever owned. Had a go of a Turbo and a Turbo S recently (I was tempted to switch) but I simply couldn’t see where the extra money was going (with the exception of straight line speed) - for me the GTS is far more useable and enjoyable.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 996tt (loved it) and now have a 997 4s.
The 4s is more rewarding and fun to drive on the roads in my view. The turbos wallop and looks we’re incredible but in all other areas the 4s wins.

If you hop out of a turbo into a NA car it feels like the engine is broken - and I really worried about this when moving on. But the recalibration of what ‘fast’ is happens very quickly and I really didn’t miss the power. In fact I enjoyed the car much much more of the time as I could enjoy ringing it’s neck through the gears without having to back off at speed, and slower driving is much more engaging and fun as a result of the more responsive engine, it’s noise, and what feels like a more agile setup.

I asked Harry Metcalf about my decision (before I made it) on twitter and he was kind enough to respond - his view was that ‘car churn is a good thing - try as many different great cars as you can’ - and I think that’s ultimately the best advice in your position. Whatever your decision it will be a great car and I hope you enjoy it.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have said what Lordjimimac said a number of times. For a relatively lightweight car I think around 300-350hp on twisty roads enables great fun without silly speeds. That is why I like the early 996 C2 and M3 CSL so much as B road cars. The high power of a turbo is a wonderful thing, I love that too, but you do have to be so much more restrained.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTS reviewed in the latest Total911 mag
 



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Echoing the usability and sound of the NA GTS engine. In the 991 its nothing short of incredible, im sure the 997 gives a very similar experience. Having sold my last 997.2 due to the sound (or complete lack of it) a turbo is going to take the lack of sound to new levels.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see all the GTS owners have weighed in Very Happy

Agree with SB one thing I found about the gen 2 997 engine even with PSE is that it sounds fabulous at idle if you blip it and at cold start but when ringing the neck out of it not as hard edged as you'd like. Turbo even quieter. Now the 991.1 GTS sounds epic..
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Channel your inner 80’s guy and buy a turbo!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah the old “you can’t use the power” argument so classic these days of those with slower cars Floor

My view is the torque of the turbo means the power is right there at normal revs the moment you need it (997 turbos don’t lag much unless you’re really in the wrong gear). You can access that between 30 and 60 (70) on country twisties just fine. In a GTS you’re going to have to ring it’s neck. Now that’s hard to use on the road.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few of you turbo owners should really take them up to VMAX 14 Sept where you can really open them up in every gear. You'll need helmets Smile

http://www.vmax200.com/our-events/

or email the organiser craig@autovivendi.com
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take mine along as soon as the engine/gearbox/chassis are all in intimate contact again..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent. I’m reliably informed by the lady who owns this 991.2 turbo s cab that she didn’t lose a race up the track all day. Leave your fanny packs at home lads and come out and play. No point if you have a 500,600,700 or 1200hp turbo if you can’t drive it - she beat me too 720bhp v 580bhp Grin
 



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a somewhat interesting take on a valuation thread (please don't get me wrong, but I don't usually bother, as I don't live in the UK, and in this country I'd need the equivalent of two 2010 9972 C4Ss to buy and tax a decent 9972 GT3 and I don't have those sort of funds).

So to answer the question (as I'm in neither camp) I'd vote GTS as long as you leave it stock for the purists/collectors when you sell it in 12 months' time.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weekend Toy buy a GTS....Turbo with its 4wd is probably a better daily.

Turbo’sare quite marmite....lots of people buy them and find them a bit dull because they’re too fast. Cars get exciting when you are driving them close to the edge of their performance...B road in a GTS you can have loads of fun.
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