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linners
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject: Xtrons double DIN installation Reply with quote

Guys

I'm getting my double DIN headunit installed in my 2003 996T. I just need to get some adaptor leads for the antenna and wondering what the yellow connector in the pics is for - can anyone point me in the right direction???

The climate control unit has been relocated to the bottom - I'll post pix once the install is finished Very Happy
 



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like this is the radio antenna adaptor.....?

https://catalog.autoleads.co.uk/catalog/radio-replacement-and-audio-fitting-antenna-adaptors/pc5-55
 



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asterix_the_gaul
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The yellow plug is part Of The mini ISO block.
For the antenna you need the adaptor to change between antenna types they are a couple of pound off eBay. The one you pictured does not look right.. You need fakra to din looking at your pics

You had just a standard single din head unit? Are there any door speakers or just dash and rears?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all you need is £1.99 iso to din (I think) antenna adapter. The rest is plug and play with the harness xtrons supply with the unit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Asterix thumbsup

Forgot to mention it's a Bose system so there are door speakers. Looks like I'll need an adaptor for the amp too (fibre optic?) - see pic
 



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owww.. Bose... Fibre optic.. That makes it a bit more complicated..

I've ripped off somebody else's post below on a different site but they seem to know what they are talking about, certainly more than me..

" If it is MY2003-on, then the Bose system uses the MOST (fibre optic) bus to transmit control and sound signals between the head unit, amplifier, telephone, and CD changer. In that case you have 3 options:
1) Bypass the amplifier, and connect the speaker outputs from the new head unit directly to the speakers. Not ideal, as the Bose speakers are a different impedance to the majority of car speakers.
2) Replace the amplifier with a conventional wired amplifier - again you have the speaker issue.
3) Use an adapter which converts the audio outputs from the new head unit to fibre optic signals, which connects to the Bose amp. There are a few on the market now, with prices from about £150 to £500. Connects2 make one which seems to do the trick, and isn't a ridiculous price."
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just Bose, all the facelift cars have fibre optic systems. In 2002 it looked like the way forwards!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill have a dig through my emails and see if I can find the MOST adaptor I used when I did this in October last year.

If I remember correctly, I avoided the Porsche tax and got one listed for Mercedes, turns out it’s the same unit made in Germany etc.

One thing I have to admit, and I believe I wired it up correctly, if you stall and have to restart the MOST adaptor gets out of sync/ doesn’t power back on. It’s a key out, wait 5 seconds and restart to get it working properly again.

Also, this took some headscratching, at first making calls didn’t work (couldn’t hear other person) and I couldn’t hear Waze notifications.

Turns out, I’d connected to the “rear” RCA out on the back of the headunit.

Finally point, make sure your amp settings are neutral before removing PCM, I don’t believe you can change them afterwards without reconnecting it back up.

Dan


One last point, likely to be manufacture dependant, but I originally hooked the dimming function for the display up to a trigger from the cigarette socket light. Unfortunately (certainly with kenwood headunits) this doesn’t work due to the PWM dimming of the internal lights, you’ll just get night mode cycling off and on.
 



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies guys

I've ordered the Connects2 CTSPO003.2 adaptor which should do the trick:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Connects2-Porsche-996-Steering-AND-Fibre-Optic-Amplifier-Adaptor-CTSPO003-2/380867651563?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Further updates to follow....
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another quickie: will I get decent GPS reception if I mount the antenna under the dashboard?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the mildly off topic question, but what headunit is it that you are fitting?
 
  
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linners
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an Xtron double DIN Android unit of some description - I bought it a while back on fleabay - never got round to fitting it till now.....

(I don't have access to it to be more specific right now)
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks really neat...does that unit accept CarPlay?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liners - hows this all gone...??

Any piccies of the successful install...??


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osh wrote:
Liners - hows this all gone...??

Any piccies of the successful install...??


Ta


Waiting for my auto-electrician to get back next week to finish off - pix to follow Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanSteele wrote:
Ill have a dig through my emails and see if I can find the MOST adaptor I used when I did this in October last year.

If I remember correctly, I avoided the Porsche tax and got one listed for Mercedes, turns out it’s the same unit made in Germany etc.



Hi Dan

can i press you on the above; can you have a dig through your stuff and share the MOST adaptor you refer to as i'm thinking of doing this in my car.



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DanSteele
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the nudge, forgot about that.

Item no 172788664193 on eBay is what I ordered according to my emails.

However, they appear to have cottoned on, put Porsche in the title and put the price up by 1/3 as a result!

Dan

Ps was £70 cheaper than the connects 2 offering at the time, although appears you get a steering controls adapter with C2. I’m not sure if this would work when replacing PCM2 in a 996 / I never checked to see if anything could actually be controlled from OBC stalk/ I don’t have any steering wheel controls.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One last thing. Which will potentially save others some grief.

Initially, I wasn't happy with the way the upside down C2 non cup holder facia looked. I'd read about euro motorspeed part, and the pics of it looked far more OE.

Euromotorpseed were nice enough to sell me just the facia and ship form America. However I fitted it for all of 30 seconds and decided the C2 facia is better. Euromotorspeed facia is just a bit of 2D 5mm thick plastic cut to a rectangle shape, design appears to have changed from the old pics on other forums of their kit.

Stood out from the rest interior too much and looked a bit bodge job to my eyes.

In the end I 4D carbon wrapped the C2 to match the carbon interior trim in my car, added a Bose bubble sticker and a small "Stuttgart Germany" sticker to cover over the Kenwood logo on the front of the head unit.

Went through many different samples until I got a carbon that looked similar... those with a keen eye will notice I buggered getting the weave direction right though... something for another day!

Regards

Dan
 
  
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