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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:21 pm    Post subject: Let's talk about wheels , 997 wheels Reply with quote

I'm like a magpie when it comes to wheels , no matter the car i find myself with 2-3-4 sets on the go so with my C4 arriving on sport design 19s i decided to track down a set of lobster claws , now stripped of gash rubber ( the guy i bought them off with a C4S had 3 different tyres on them Dont know 2 fronts were Sunny budgets Surprised )
Anyway collected them yesterday after a acid bath & powdercoat , https://www.instagram.com/p/B0FkO0spFoI/ couldn't be happier with the finish but the most noticeable thing was the weight of these Surprised really surprised how little they weigh by comparison to say a genuine 19inch BMW CSL wheel
Does anyone know which of the OE wheels were lighter / heavier than the others or are they all similar ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the Turbo 1 wheels are the lightest non GT wheel.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s one of my things on the to do list, is to get a set of lobster claws. I think they’re the best looking standard wheel on a 997. thumbsup

Not sure what the wheels are called on mine, but I’m not a big fan of them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
I believe the Turbo 1 wheels are the lightest non GT wheel.


I think the lightest non GT wheels are actually these...




Gray79 wrote:
Not sure what the wheels are called on mine, but I’m not a big fan of them.


Those are the Porsche Classic Wheels. I really like them Smile


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
FZP wrote:
I believe the Turbo 1 wheels are the lightest non GT wheel.


I think the lightest non GT wheels are actually these...




Gray79 wrote:
Not sure what the wheels are called on mine, but I’m not a big fan of them.


Those are the Porsche Classic Wheels. I really like them Smile





I agree … The Classics are a nice wheel , much better looking than the 'Lobster Claw' type …. I think they were far too chunky looking ….
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the number crunchers i just weighed the lobster claws ( without tyres )

These are C4 spec so rear C2 would presumably be lighter

front 9.7kg / 21lbs

rear 12.4kg / 27lbs

to compare a genuine set of CSL 19s i had on a Z4M were 28lbs front (8.5j) & 30lbs rear (9.5j)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to be a pedant !! but the wheels are correctly known as "lobster fork" not lobster claw, as they closely resemble the shape of the implement used to eat lobster ie. a lobster fork. They don't look anything like a lobster claw !!
And yes my car does have "Lobster fork" wheels and yes I do eat lobster with a lobster fork !!! :lol:
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite that, they are known as lobster claws or just lobsters.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Despite that, they are known as lobster claws or just lobsters.


I guess I just like to have things correct !! a bit like some call a "Porsche" a porker which makes me cringe a little !!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robro911 wrote:
Sorry to be a pedant !! but the wheels are correctly known as "lobster fork" not lobster claw, as they closely resemble the shape of the implement used to eat lobster ie. a lobster fork. They don't look anything like a lobster claw !!
And yes my car does have "Lobster fork" wheels and yes I do eat lobster with a lobster fork !!! Laughing


When i told a Porsche owning pal i was rejoining the 911uk forum he said " i wouldn't bother " , " there are some proper knobs on there " Embarassed looks like he was right Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robro911 wrote:


Sorry to be a pedant !! but the wheels are correctly known as "lobster fork" not lobster claw, as they closely resemble the shape of the implement used to eat lobster ie. a lobster fork. They don't look anything like a lobster claw !!
And yes my car does have "Lobster fork" wheels and yes I do eat lobster with a lobster fork !!! Laughing



I'd never heard the term 'lobster fork' before so I googled it and found that it seems to be a term used on American Porsche Forums.

Using the 911uk Search forum function the words lobster AND fork threw up 3 threads using the term including this one.

Using the words lobster AND claw threw up 78 threads.

In the UK I'd suggest that 'lobster claw' is the recognised term. Judge
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robro911 wrote:
Sorry to be a pedant !! but the wheels are correctly known as "lobster fork" not lobster claw, as they closely resemble the shape of the implement used to eat lobster ie. a lobster fork. They don't look anything like a lobster claw !!
And yes my car does have "Lobster fork" wheels and yes I do eat lobster with a lobster fork !!! Laughing


Nowt wrong with being a pedant, but it pays to ensure you are right before correcting others Hand
Anyhoo... back to best wheels. These are clear leaders for me:
https://teile.com/en/porsche-tequipment-shop/model-911-997/15/Wheels-Rims-and-accessories/601D-Wheel-rims/219/19-inch-Carrera-Sport-wheel-115J-x-19-ET50-for-C4C4STurbo/15600
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like 'lobster fork'! Right or wrong it seems to make more sense to me!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drmark wrote:

Anyhoo... back to best wheels. These are clear leaders for me:
https://teile.com/en/porsche-tequipment-shop/model-911-997/15/Wheels-Rims-and-accessories/601D-Wheel-rims/219/19-inch-Carrera-Sport-wheel-115J-x-19-ET50-for-C4C4STurbo/15600


Don’t like those either Surprised
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gray79 wrote:
drmark wrote:

Anyhoo... back to best wheels. These are clear leaders for me:
https://teile.com/en/porsche-tequipment-shop/model-911-997/15/Wheels-Rims-and-accessories/601D-Wheel-rims/219/19-inch-Carrera-Sport-wheel-115J-x-19-ET50-for-C4C4STurbo/15600


Don’t like those either Surprised


Must be misspent youth surrounded by minilites...
 



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The “lobster claw/ fork’ description is just a descriptive name given by owners both this and other side of the pond ..

I believe they were options called “Carrera S wheel”......it’s all lost in the mists of time now

I don’t think you can beat a BBS or OZ aftermarket option really , for the most part they suit the 997 far better than some of the OE items......

Especially the CHR ......!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

me&my997 wrote:
robro911 wrote:
Sorry to be a pedant !! but the wheels are correctly known as "lobster fork" not lobster claw, as they closely resemble the shape of the implement used to eat lobster ie. a lobster fork. They don't look anything like a lobster claw !!
And yes my car does have "Lobster fork" wheels and yes I do eat lobster with a lobster fork !!! :lol:


When i told a Porsche owning pal i was rejoining the 911uk forum he said " i wouldn't bother " , " there are some proper knobs on there " :oops: looks like he was right :lol:


"Best not bother then, I'm sure there are far more suitable forums for you !!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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me&my997 wrote:
robro911 wrote:
Sorry to be a pedant !! but the wheels are correctly known as "lobster fork" not lobster claw, as they closely resemble the shape of the implement used to eat lobster ie. a lobster fork. They don't look anything like a lobster claw !!
And yes my car does have "Lobster fork" wheels and yes I do eat lobster with a lobster fork !!! Laughing


When i told a Porsche owning pal i was rejoining the 911uk forum he said " i wouldn't bother " , " there are some proper knobs on there " Embarassed looks like he was right Laughing


"Best not bother then, I'm sure there are far more suitable forums for you !!


9 exclamation marks in a few short sentences Embarassed not a bad effort Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your mate said 911uk are knobs, he must have tried to sell a number plate here which required a rather severe case of dyslexia to remotely guess what it was referencing for the princely sum of the GDP of a mid sized African nation. He would have been dealt with appropriately if that was the case, as you would expect.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok wheels.... the standard 5 spokes just look wrong because they leave too much space between the spokes, this is where the lobsters always win. Lobsters with the centres black also look very good... the turbo wheels are ***** hideous regardless of what they weigh.. as are all the nasty aftermarket oz etc wheels that all look like you have ramraided a set of fast and furious 🤪 (especially when painted bronze or gold...)

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