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991.2GTS
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Congratulations. FWIW were I buying a 991 GT3, I think I would actually be inclined to go PDK, as big a fan of manuals as I am, I think the whole platform and all the systems were honed to suit that transmission and, having used one, I like the way they work.

Interested to know what you think about the Panamera E-Hybrid Sport Turismo. It's on my company car list (as in I own the firm, so I can list what I like) and looks handy for lugging the dog and mountain bike about.

Panamera E-Hybrid Sport Turismo - could they make that name any longer?!!!

Panamera E-Hybrid Sport Satsuma 4x4 Turismo


It’s an odd beast the Panamera. Today was the first chance I’ve had to stretch its legs. There are four modes, e power, hybrid, sport and sport plus. The batteries are forever being recharged when driving, including the use of regenerative braking. It’s quite mesmerising watching the green block of pixels shoot up on the digital instrument panel when braking, as it charges the batteries. And similarly, it does the same in the opposite direction when you are using the electric motor.

The power delivery takes some getting used to, and I’m not there yet. Clearly their software delivers a mix of electric and ICE based on a very specific algorithm, but I’ve got no idea what’s going on. At times, you are getting instant torque as the electric motor kicks in, and at others, it feels ‘normal’ and torque isn’t delivered as quickly. Which makes the whole thing feel a bit inconsistent.

It’s certainly got some grunt in Sport and Sport+, the 0-60 is the same as the Macan GTS, and it did feel just as quick. And 4.6 secs for a car this size is epic. On the outside I bet it sounds ok too. But inside the cabin it’s a struggle to hear it properly. That’s obviously by design, and it’s a very nice place to be, especially on the motorway. The interior is burgundy leather, which wouldn’t be my first choice. Its like sitting in a very expensive chesterfield armchair as you waft along effortlessly in the outside lane. I thought the Macan was comfortable, but this is very civilised.

It’s a huge beast too, on my way back from Leeds yesterday I stopped at the Supermarket, and it’s arse hung out of the space by about 3 foot. This is a fully specc’d model ( the price surprised me, well over £100k with the options), so comes with all kinds of bells and whistles. I spent about 30 minutes in said supermarket car park messing with the new infotainment system that’s now appearing in newer models such as the facelifted Macan and 992. It certainly feels like a big improvement on the older PCM, and felt quite intuitive. The larger screen is impressive, along with the digital instrument panels behind the wheel.

I doubt I’d ever be interested in one, I just don’t need that kind of space. But if I had kids at home and did lots of motorway miles, and wanted something more economical than a Cayenne, this would work.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

991.2GTS wrote:
It’s a huge beast too, on my way back from Leeds yesterday I stopped at the Supermarket, and it’s arse hung out of the space by about 3 foot.
I didn't want to ask a loaded question, but that is the sort of "real world" feedback I was hoping for. Thank you.

IMHO it's a handsome beast, and if I lived somewhere with actual car-sized parking spaces (like the USA for example) I think it would be very tempting.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice GT3 coming into Wilslow, A 991 Clubsport with 4k on the clock, and in the 3rd best colour taboot. Seems prices are falling as 103K seems very cheap for Wilmslow.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Nice GT3 coming into Wilslow, A 991 Clubsport with 4k on the clock, and in the 3rd best colour taboot. Seems prices are falling as 103K seems very cheap for Wilmslow.


Surprised Absence of PCCB, Front Lift Dont know I'd say slightly unders on miles for OPC given an independent has a 13k miles 2014 clubsport up at £92.9k
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to do European track days, £99,999 and under is the magic price point, purely because Spa and 'Ring day insurance doubles above that point.

Would I own a 996 or 997 outside of OPC warranty? Yes.

Would I dare do the same with a 991? Nope.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that because of the 991.1 GT3 engine or just a general thing with 991 over the '7 and '6 @diggermeister?

Think the 10 year/120k mile engine warranty is a factory warranty, transferable owner to owner and not dependent on having the regular Porsche warranty. If so I'd buy one with or without if it was the right car, the £92k car would be ahead of the OPC car on my list!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
spongebob squarepants wrote:
Nice GT3 coming into Wilslow, A 991 Clubsport with 4k on the clock, and in the 3rd best colour taboot. Seems prices are falling as 103K seems very cheap for Wilmslow.


Surprised Absence of PCCB, Front Lift Dont know I'd say slightly unders on miles for OPC given an independent has a 13k miles 2014 clubsport up at £92.9k


Has the front lift, and under 5 k on the clock with the Clubsport that's all you need. I suspect it has the PCCB too, but not something id want on a GT3 TBF.
The other you mention is cat N (Bolton fire car) Thumb
Wilmslow has a bargain simples.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggermeister wrote:
If you want to do European track days, £99,999 and under is the magic price point, purely because Spa and 'Ring day insurance doubles above that point.

Would I own a 996 or 997 outside of OPC warranty? Yes.

Would I dare do the same with a 991? Nope.
Not sure why? when it gets close to the ten years then probably yep Thumb Although you may assume if its going to go bang, by then it would of happened Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJA911 wrote:
Is that because of the 991.1 GT3 engine or just a general thing with 991 over the '7 and '6 @diggermeister?


spongebob squarepants wrote:
Not sure why? when it gets close to the ten years then probably yep Thumb Although you may assume if its going to go bang, by then it would of happened Dont know


IMHO the 991 is a great car and the GT3s are superb, but as you approach the 10 year cut off, I wonder how the market will judge them. Part of that depends on how the cars fare in the meantime, all of which is an unknown. The platform is also a good few levels more complex (RWS for example) in terms of long term.

As someone who's never content to keep cars stock standard, an extended warranty is out of the question for me. However, as the 991 GT3's drop below £100k for a Clubsport, they do look very tempting.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the issue with the 991.1 GT3 engine was it catching fire not going bang Dont know Does the replacement engine solve the problem or is it still a risk?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m currently looking at 991.2 gt3 and 991.1 gt3 RS hoping prices soften a little bit.

I’ve ruled out the 991.1 gt3 due to the engine. That 10 year warranty hasn’t got long to go on early examples and this will be a long term car for me.

I wouldn’t pay anywhere near £100k for a car with a badly flawed engine.

I really want a RS but I wonder how I would get on with it every day on uk roads.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought the issue with the 991.1 GT3 engine was it catching fire not going bang Dont know Does the replacement engine solve the problem or is it still a risk?


The initial issue was them going bang due to a fault with the conrod bolts and the resultant catastrophic failure resulted in an “air conditioned” crankcase, this in turn deposited oil on the exhaust which led to the well publicised conflagrations.

Later cars/subsequent revised engines aren’t affected in the same manner, the issues seem to be valvetrain related.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked mine up on Wednesday. Haven't done any miles in it yet, due to the pissing weather......... nooo
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic cars, love that colour, you clearly do! GTS for daily and GT3 for treats and track?
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Nice. Is that your tractor as well chum Dont know

For info @supercarnigel has offered his 991 GT3RS lava orange with 10k for sale at £145k making it the cheapest in the country. Presumably OPC have offered quite a bit less in trade for his new speedster Question
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fantastic cars, love that colour, you clearly do! GTS for daily and GT3 for treats and track?


Thanks, yes, the GTS will be the daily for now, and I've just bought a VW Up! GTI as a little runabout too, to share the load. The GT3 is my weekend/Dales car, and I'm thinking about doing some track days, once I've had some tuition.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice. Is that your tractor as well chum Dont know



The tractor will come in handy for when I need pulling out of a ditch... Grin

No, that's not mine, nor is the farm.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Going into Leeds tomorrow to look at this:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-GT3-91601

Not keen on the door handles, or interior Crayon trim, but other than that it’s bob on. They’ve offered me £92k for my GTS in p/x. That’s quite a hit after only 5 months and 6k miles........ Confused

When I’m sat in it tomorrow, providing it’s still there, I just know the teenage boy inside me is going to forget economics and roll over. I need to be strong.............arghhhhhhhh.


Oh how the weak have fallen...... Grin
If you're going to be weak Graham then why not with a 'brace' of Crayon Porsches, well done Thumb, As many say , you're only here once so enjoy in good health, I'd be right behind you with a GT3.2 if I could only convince Mrs Porschekit.... The Wife but she's got other things on her mind ,,,,like kitchens.... Rolling Eyes

Hope to see it in the flesh soon...if you're having a run out next mid-week (if the rain ever stops) let me know and we can do a meet up somewhere on the Yorkshire moors. There's a few of us lazy bas..retired folk available...
You're also welcome at our annual PCGB event at Witton Castle on Sunday 18th August, let me know if you want details.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome colour/car, never seen that before. Bit like Audi Nardo grey I suspect?

I’ve been keeping an eye on GT3 prices recently and a couple I had my eye on have sold this week (the Iris Blue Mk1 CS at 911box - my old car which I really wanted back (!) and the guards red Gen 2 CS at Leven Car Co).

The search goes on but good to see there are still plenty buyers.

Enjoy the car



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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991.2GTS wrote:
Going into Leeds tomorrow to look at this:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-GT3-91601

Not keen on the door handles, or interior Crayon trim, but other than that it’s bob on. They’ve offered me £92k for my GTS in p/x. That’s quite a hit after only 5 months and 6k miles........ Confused

When I’m sat in it tomorrow, providing it’s still there, I just know the teenage boy inside me is going to forget economics and roll over. I need to be strong.............arghhhhhhhh.


Oh how the weak have fallen...... Grin
If you're going to be weak Graham then why not with a 'brace' of Crayon Porsches, well done Thumb, As many say , you're only here once so enjoy in good health, I'd be right behind you with a GT3.2 if I could only convince Mrs Porschekit.... The Wife but she's got other things on her mind ,,,,like kitchens.... Rolling Eyes

Hope to see it in the flesh soon...if you're having a run out next mid-week (if the rain ever stops) let me know and we can do a meet up somewhere on the Yorkshire moors. There's a few of us lazy bas..retired folk available...
You're also welcome at our annual PCGB event at Witton Castle on Sunday 18th August, let me know if you want details.

cheers
John


Thanks John. Very Happy I couldn't resist.

I'm not about next week, but the 18th sounds good at Witton Castle if you want to PM me the details. That'll be a nice run out and the weather is looking ok, in the morning anyway. I've just joined PCGB, and it'll be good to get to another event.
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