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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:25 pm    Post subject: New 911 buyer Reply with quote

Hi, I'm new to the site and looking to buy my first 911, I have found the following which seems to tick all the boxes and would appreciate any feedback on the 911, the trader, price (31k) etc and anything in particular I should be looking out for when I view it, thanks very much for any and all advice.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-997/porsche-911-997-carrera-2s----------------2008/9329150
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it looks a very nice low milage car with a great service history, I am no expert and have only owned mine for a very short time but I will say as i am sure other will is have a PPI done including bore score check it might cost a couple of hundred pounds but could save thousands in the long run, apart from that it looks a great first 911 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm.. you are not exactly a million miles away from gen2 money. Yes the mileage is nice but make no mistake that’s what you are paying for. And there are still the potential engine issues. Just get a PPI from Hartech and, for that money on a gen1, I’d want very good history and supporting paperwork.

Don’t go for the first car you see as it's most definitely a buyers market. Most of all, enjoy the experience, as it’s great fun looking at new 911s!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely colour, really good spec and a sound history. Does it have heated seats? I bought my 997.1 Convertible and it had everything apart from heated seats and I do miss not having them during the colder months. The sports option can always be added later as is a short shifter. PSE is a must. 4WD is a different drive to 2WD, personally I prefer 4WD and I own/have owned both.

Do your research but it’s all online anyway and easy to do. If it’s the one go for it as long as you get it checked out by a specialist.

Enjoy the hunt.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger welcome Thumb Nice car but it breaks the 997.1 “golden rule”. lock
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does look very nice - colour, spec etc.

I was in your position 4 years ago when I made my entry into Porsche ownership, I decided it would be sensible to get into a Gen2 base spec manual carrera. (I use it as a daily).

Rightly or wrongly this was for my peace of mind, as well as more modern feeling interior.

The Gen2 carrera is just as quick as the gen1 carrera S. (although doesn’t sound as good).

Make sure you drive more than one car (I bought the first one I saw, from a reputable Indy, JZM)

I’ve never heard of that dealer, but looks like a small outfit that will offer an ineffective ‘warrantywise’ Warranty with small claim limit etc. This was important to me when putting all that cash into a car.

Personally I would buy a higher mileage Gen2 with big history file.

If you’re local you can come and see mine (although not for sale) to give you a benchmark of what to expect for your budget.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to 911uk Tiger',

When considering a Gen1 997 it's essential that you go in with your eyes wide open. Have a good read of the 997 sub-forum to see the sort of potential issues that can affect these cars. Read all you can regarding IMS bearings and bore-scoring and take note that the professional PPI and a borescope are always recommended.

Others have already steered you towards a Gen2 car which, imo, would be a prospect that offers more peace of mind.

I also echo what's been said about the price of this particular car reflecting the below average mileage. This premium will be quickly eroded if you intend to put miles on it yourself.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I was in a similar position 2 years ago, i went for a 2004 private sale C2s, with around 37K on the clock and had 4 owners.

I wanted an 997 C2s, i knew about the engine vulnerabilities and had a PPI. I have enjoyed the ownership of the car. Theses are great cars.

I'd go for it, as-long as you are aware of the engine might have an issue. The main issue on a 2008 car will be scored cylinders. high Oil consumption is a sign of scored cylinders.

Just get the cylinders checked via the PPI, and ask if the warranty covers the full rebuild of the engine if these are scored. Thumb
 
  
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997 Coast
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Echo heuer_c2s

I purchased mine in 2015 - 34,000 miles one owner - march 2005 build - engine number indicates larger bearing fittted - now done 50,000 - DID NOT HAVE A PPI - silly

However - does not have scored bores - costs around £9,000 during my ownership - CLUTCH FRONT SHOCKS COOLANT PIPES FRONT AND REAR AIR CON RADS DISCS AND PADS. etc plus £3,400 for Supersprint manifold and exhausts (retained cats - they last)

Great cars - took me over two years to push the score issue to the back of my head - plus 2 scopes - to start to enjoy mine well.

The one you fancy looks a good punt




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C2.1GTS.2
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a gen2 car with more miles, not only are they supremely reliable the gen 1 versus gen 2 are night & day.
They are in my opinion like 2 completely different cars to own.
I came from a 9k mile gen1 3.6 with no issues or even potential issues, to a gen 2 GTS with 24k miles.
PDK & DFI engine in gen2 is in a different league.
 
  
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RichardKS
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...purchased our ‘05 Carrera S in 2012. Hasn’t gone pop yet...

Car in the ad looks ok. But it hasn’t got a proper roof and is expensive because of the mileage. If you’re buying one to actually use, ultra low mileage is neither here nor there. History and good maintenance is more important: it ain’t a new car.

Get any used 997 properly inspected before handling cash over, and gen 2s do have a few issues.
 
  
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tom_nieto
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C2.1GTS.2 wrote:
Buy a gen2 car with more miles, not only are they supremely reliable the gen 1 versus gen 2 are night & day.
They are in my opinion like 2 completely different cars to own.
I came from a 9k mile gen1 3.6 with no issues or even potential issues, to a gen 2 GTS with 24k miles.
PDK & DFI engine in gen2 is in a different league.


Slightly unfair comparison given the 88 bhp difference in power between the two!
 
  
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C2.1GTS.2
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_nieto wrote:
C2.1GTS.2 wrote:
Buy a gen2 car with more miles, not only are they supremely reliable the gen 1 versus gen 2 are night & day.
They are in my opinion like 2 completely different cars to own.
I came from a 9k mile gen1 3.6 with no issues or even potential issues, to a gen 2 GTS with 24k miles.
PDK & DFI engine in gen2 is in a different league.


Slightly unfair comparison given the 88 bhp difference in power between the two!
 
  
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