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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:28 pm    Post subject: Retro fit air conditioning Reply with quote

I’m at the early stages of looking to buy a 964, my first Porsche.
I fully appreciate air con was an an option and not a common choice when sold new.

Does anyone have any experience of getting it retro fitted to a car?
I’m not going to hold out for one with it fitted already, but it would be good good to understand if it could be installed at a later date. I appreciate it won’t be easy or inexpensive, but I plan to keep the car indefinitely.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an aftermarket kit which my garage has fitted a couple of times to early 911 cars .. no idea costs etc but if you want to PM me i'll give you a contact number for my garage so you can ask the questions .
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive seen a classic retrofit system installed in a 964....very good!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Retro fit air conditioning Reply with quote

AtariBoy wrote:
I’m at the early stages of looking to buy a 964, my first Porsche.
I fully appreciate air con was an an option and not a common choice when sold new.


Have you considered a cabriolet or targa? Cheaper and cooler!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="angry"]Ive seen a classic retrofit system installed in a 964....very good![/quote

Do they have something for a 964?

All I see is <1989 parts!
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spoke to Alpinair today, they seemed to know their stuff although cost would be £4,800 plus VAT.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not worth the dough as the spread between a non AC and a car with AC is not that great given that a 964 with factory AC and original evaporator a buyer is looking at £1.5k to sort it properly. Condition will be the overall factor regardless of AC.

And whilst AC works, it's not that brilliant.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why is the A/c in 964/993 generally considered crap and what weak links are there to address to make it better?

I’ve replaced every main part of the system (compresser condenser evaporater) during my ownership of all air cooled cars!

an electric kit sounds very cool has anyone tried one?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adrian993 wrote:
why is the A/c in 964/993 generally considered crap and what weak links are there to address to make it better?


I wouldn't say it was crap its just not 'as good' as modern varaints. I believe you can buy an updated high performance evaporator (popular in the US) and that improves the cooling effects.

You've addressed all the main issues it sounds like. What about receiver/drier? Most evaporators will look like this so efficiency is going to be well down:


Most owners baulk at the evaporator replacement where a £100 part takes 10+hrs of labour cost to fit what
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://griffiths.com/porsche/air-conditioning/964-993/porsche-964-993-evaporators/

Is this the one you speak of?

Car is going through a stripped out rebuild so I though it’s a good tome to address outstanding things that need to be!
 
  
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