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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject: Options don’t match what’s on my car... Reply with quote

Hi all, was a bit bored yesterday evening while some drivel was on the TV and decided to have a quick check of my option codes...which is where it’s got confusing!

Based on the sticker in my original service book it says I have the following options;

17mm rear spacers - XRN
Seat Heating - 342
Park Assistant - 635
Carbon instrument surround - XPY
Porsche Techno 18” wheels - XRC

(Codes from stuttcars website)

Of which I have errr none.

All the other options the car has aren’t listed other than wheel centre caps and the 6-CD changer!

Is the only way to check by going to the OPC? I’m a bit worried now and it’ll only bug me until I get to the bottom of it!

Anyone else have this discrepancy or are the code descriptions on Stuttcars not “accurate”?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car has hardback sports seats and the PSE, but I fitted those myself. Changes get made over the years, perhaps just fiddled with?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st thing I'd do is check the correlation between what's in your book and what's on your bonnet sticker. If they don't match I's be checking the VIN, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
My car has hardback sports seats and the PSE, but I fitted those myself. Changes get made over the years, perhaps just fiddled with?


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I get people adding bits and changing wheels for sure, but why “remove” park assist for example? Or heated seats? It would seem more hassle than it’s worth!

The car was fully HPI’d and also had a Porsche specialist inspection (borescope check, IMS etc) and was all clear. As such, I didn’t run the options against the stickers.

Alex - both stickers match in book and under bonnet.

Think I’ll ring my friendly OPC tomorrow 😂
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fingers crossed it's not a ringer Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect the code list you are using is wrong. As you say why go to the trouble of removing park assist, seat heating. I can at a stretch envisage sport techno wheels and carbon bits being removed and flogged.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your codes are correct to the list I have Thumb

Wheels and spacers, easily changed to taste ?
Rear Park assist, some people hate the look of the sensors on the bumper ?
Seats may have been changed for a different style to say comforts or hardbacks ?
Carbon instrument surround, no idea why someone would change that unless they did`t like the carbon fibre look Question
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the seats were changed, few people would remove the switches, fewer still the wiring. My car currently has non-heated seats, but the switches are still there. I can't believe anybody would remove parking sensors. Again, the wiring would be there.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex wrote:
Fingers crossed it's not a ringer Grin


Hopefully it’ll turn out to be a ford probe so I’ll not have to worry about bore score.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I’ve spoke to Notts OPC and they’ve run the VIN.

It seems the only change from original spec is it has the lighter Carerra 18” 5 spokes (spec says it should be on 17” wheels). Everything else it has is listed. Phew.

It’s also showing it as having M030 from the factory which i didn’t know. Ironic as I’ve just gone down that option with a fresh new M030 kit. It would appear someone thought it was too firm and swapped it out possibly.

Still doesn’t explain the wrong options sticker in the book though... OPC have suggested a few places to have one reprinted to match. Just seems odd!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the vin on the sticker and book match the vin on the car?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut and shut.....

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused... the sticker in the book matches the car, you said in an earlier post.

So, the options codes on the stickers are presumably wrong, or the options decoder lists are wrong. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
I'm confused... the sticker in the book matches the car, you said in an earlier post.

So, the options codes on the stickers are presumably wrong, or the options decoder lists are wrong. Confused


Confused Hope it all turns out right OP
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something ain’t quite right here - do the option stickers on the car and in the handbook both tally up?

Do an Mot lookup check and make sure the mileage and service records kind of tally up closely enough. Check ViN on MoT records with the one on your dashboard and on your V5
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this has been an interesting day!

So...

The cars VIN sticker under the bonnet matches the car window and the v5. The sticker on the car is in pretty bad condition so you can make out the VIN and paint code but not the options. All the MOTs, receipts etc tally up mileage with year/age as well. Also it’s HPI’d is clear for what it’s worth.

On closer inspection, and I missed it earlier the VIN sticker in the service manual does not match - after the first 99 it should follow with a Z - but it’s a number 7.

So this is where it gets interesting!

The car was originally bought by a British citizen living in Spain somewhere - they had the car delivered to Spain (Porsche Centro Alicante). They have stamped the delivery document. The car was then brought back to the UK and looked after by OPC Newcastle. They performed the first service and up to circa 40k.

The original service book was lost, a replacement ordered and officially stamped up by OPC Newcastle. The original was then found. This doesn’t have a sticker in it (apparently it was down to the salesperson dealer to plonk this in) Clearly they forgot! There seems to be other examples of this on Rennlist/RennTech interestingly.

The helpful OPC told me to check the engine number/code which I did. It doesn’t match the VIN print out...

It would appear that in its first 2 years of life the original engine was replaced - this is signified by the “AT” digits in the engine number meaning “austauch” or exchange. This is a factory replacement. The engine number also points to the fact it’s 665, 6 being 6cyl, second 6 is naturally aspirated and 5 is 2005. The final digits are the 5 digit serial. Running these numbers it’s above the all important 07475 code which means it’s a late 05 motor with the revised larger IMS bearing... this ties in with a specialist stating on an invoice “revised larger IMS fitted”

Without wanting to open a what IMS is best debate, my understanding is this is the revised larger bearing less prone to failure than the 2000-2005 vintage?

OPC need to send me some official documents to confirm the factory replacement as when the original owner (or one of the subsequent ones)lost the service manual, they also lost a chunk of receipts/invoices pertaining to the exchange under warranty engine!!

The wrong VIN sticker in the service book is a reproduction as dimension and font wise don’t match what it should look like. Assuming someone had it made
to fill the gap?? OPC have advised me to remove it as it’s only confusing things! They’ve sent me full VIN breakdown and will send the confirmation of the exchange engine as well.

Just need it in writing from the OPC now to back what they found up!

Amazing what you can learn in a day!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is all interesting stuff - thumbsup
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