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Wh1t3Kn1ght
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2001 Porsche 996 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: 944 Turbo Mini Restoration Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

You wanted to see my 944 Turbo so I feel I must oblige Grin

First picture from several years ago now and shows the original condition.

I collected the keys to this beauty back in 2007 and it was my daily driver until 2014 when I got my company car.

I took the opportunity then to have a good look at the bodywork as some rust was starting to appear in the usual 944 places.

Got it booked in with a local Porsche bodywork specialist who fitted some new body panels and repaired some sections.

After this the car went into a local classic car bodyshop for a full glass out and bare metal respray in the original Panther Black.

Car is currently in storage and requires some final assembly of interior and exterior trim. I then have a list of mechanical items I want to complete and servicing before I get it back on the road.
















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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice Thumb hope your spring plates are in better condition than mine which were seized solid , I`m trying to decide between replacement rubber bushes or the harder poly
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

worship

You should be called the Bl4ckKn1ght

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark horse and all that!
What a car Surprised A lot or work has gone int that Thumb

I trust we will see pictures and updates as you tackle the mechanicals?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
worship

You should be called the Bl4ckKn1ght

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Hahaha you are right Smile - mate said it was a good name when I had my white 944S so it stuck

Chief wrote:
Dark horse and all that!
What a car Surprised A lot or work has gone int that Thumb

I trust we will see pictures and updates as you tackle the mechanicals?


Yes - will start an instagram account as well going to be very busy between this and some other jobs on the 996 Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no free time due to a permanent maintenance program on a 944S and 996 combined.

I do love the N/A engine of the S but I guess going to a Turbo is a better prospect.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick update from me - I spent 3 hours in the garage on Friday night whilst it peed down outside going through the interior of the car and gathering all the various loose parts and sticking them in a box. I also noted down anything I needed to order or any jobs I'd overlooked and added them to my ever growning list.



Battery was dead as a do do when we picked the car up from storage and looks like the bad indie I went to stuck a cheapo Lion brand battery in and charged me same price as a Bosch...

I've got a brand new Continental timing belt and balance shaft belt so will be ordering the belt service tools and a flywheel lock very shortly so I can tackle the first job. Making sure I get this done before I get any inclination to start her up. I also need to get the hand brake adjusted on my 996 - so that is my first priority.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks a bit tight in there!
Keep up the good work Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much to report so far - spent some time sorting out all the parts I have and buying lots of fasteners from ebay!

Belt change tool kit arrived from Germany and the quality of the tools is very good - nice thickness and weight to the spanners and a very solid looking flywheel lock.



Battery is charged and the CTEK managed to totally revive it so I got the tyres pumped back up to spec pressures using the compressor.

Checked the oil on the dipstick which is a nasty colour and smells like paint thinners... will get some cheap synthetic and do an oil flush I think after I've changed the belts!

More to report later in the week hopefully!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 88 Turbo S is playing silly buggetrs at the moment cooling fans intermittent and now no fuel pressure, trying me at the moment but I know when sorted it is great, managed about 50 miles in it this year as I have Ben doing a complete brake rebuild.
Hopefully sorted and a euro trip next year
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope everyone had a great weekend - quite a big update as I spent some time during the weekday evenings and had a marathon day on Saturday dismantling everything that had been bodged and getting it all ready for a proper re-installation.

Passenger seat wouldn't move forward or backward so after investigation I found that there was an electrical lead going to a rusty metal box that was sitting underneath the seat...

Decided to remove the seat to find out what it was and then found I only had 2 loosely fitted bolts holding the seat down - (new bolts ready to fit!).





After a quick google and confirming my suspicions this was the original alarm / immobiliser fitted by Porsche UK. I'm pretty sure that it isn't functional as I now have a different more modern alarm / immobiliser fitted, however I've decided not to disturb the thick bundle of cables which heads into the unknown beneath the carpet. Found that it should have been tucked under the carpet beneath the seat and it sits there without impeding travel of the seat!

On to the next job, I was pretty sure that the front bumper and wings / fenders hadn't been installed properly judging by the wonky and rusty screws holding it all together. So time to dismantle it all!



Whilst doing that I set about getting some new screws painted ready to fit to the top of the wings so it doesn't look ugly when opening the bonnet. I plan on using a piece of soft tubing to reinstall them and the tighten them very carefully to avoid chipping the paint.



Was a bit disappointed with the final finish after applying the clear coat as they appear to be matte instead of glossy?!? - wondering if I'm going to need to polish them to bring out the gloss...

Whilst I was in the middle of that the courier showed up with a present from Porsche Exeter worship



And then just this morning I managed to get the drivers side roof trim and new seal fitted.



Till the next time...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good progress, it'll be mint once you've done with it, although are they ever done?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been awhile since the last update but I have been busy!

Found that the screws I painted for the wings came out a bit milky after applying the clear lacquer to it. Luckily a spot of autoglym super resin polish sorted it right out!



I then cleaned up the rear side windows and removed the old immobiliser stickers, whilst I was doing that I sanded down the metal trims that fit into the rubber seals and repainted them with some satin black paint.





Mate came over last weekend and we got the front wings fitted with the new screws - only loosely fitted for now until I get the bumper back on.



Also found there was a few odd bits of carpet underlay / dampening material in the boot. Took out both front seats which weren't attached properly and found that the missing bits went on the drivers side.

Whilst I was in there I refitted the accelerator pedal correctly, hammered the floor flat and sealed a hole in the floor with a rubber bung. Just need to seal it all when all is done with some underseal and then fit the plastic chassis protector.





Next job is to put the rear windows back in, remove the power steering pump for new seals and change the timing and balance belts so a bit of preparation already done -


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you folks had a great christmas and are looking forward to the new year!

More updates from me Smile

I fitted the rear quarter windows back in and began stripping down the front of the engine ready to replace the cam and balance belts. After getting in I realised that a little more work would be required so I ended up removing the power steering pump and anti-roll bar.

The balance shaft front seals look a bit weepy so will be getting replaced along with the front crankshaft and camshaft seals. Water pump pulley / bearing seems fine and all the rollers bar one idler can be reused. I'm hoping that the balance shaft races and oil pump gear aren't worn but haven't got to them yet so crossing those fingers (oil pump gear is quite expensive...).

Picked up some more bits including brand new and correct spark plugs (previous ones don't appear to be correct).

And finally cleaned most of the parts ready for installation.













No wonder the air conditioning never worked the condensor looks completely knackered - but not a priority currently so will perhaps get replaced at a later time.




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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot of paper clips Grin

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
That's a lot of paper clips Grin

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Yes indeedy - they must have thought I was into some dodgy S&M when I purchased a bulk load of them! Floor

Saw the idea whilst perusing other car restoration projects on the web. Unfortunately the roof and window trim is showing its 30 years of age and is brittle and ripped in places so I didn't have much to clip over the edge. Used some of that Alpha Thixofix contact adhesive to glue it down, will come in handy when I finish the interior off and glue the carpet edges back down.

Spent a few hours on New Years day and managed to do a few more things -

1. Removed the inlet manifold (after procuring a deep offset spanner to reach one of the awkwardly placed retaining bolts)
2. Removed the water pump (surprisingly easily after reading all the horror stories about snapped bolts and studs)
3. Drained the oil
4. Had a mare with the oil filter which the garage must have over-tightened when the oil was last changed.

So the water pump didn't actually look that bad and the bearing feels as good as the new pump (was a Laso) but after going through my receipts it was changed during the later months of 2007 so going on for 11 years old and just over 60k miles. I was looking at the Geba pump on Design911's website the other night and must have clicked the order button by mistake Grin





Now the oil is a bit of a horror... it has a strong smell of petrol in it but still has some viscosity. The colour looks very odd, almost like milk chocolate but the original oil was purple... last change was Royal Purple fully synthetic and I can't quite remember what used Royal Purple looks like, so it could be perfectly normal. The magnetic plug was covered in goo I set about spreading it out on a paper towel and couldn't see any metallic particles in it so wondering why it was stuck to the plug like that. Also I'm hoping that the petrol smell and perhaps the colour are more or less down to the car being off the road for 4-5 years and then the storage people flooding the engine when they tried to start it a few months ago (they never did get it started and claimed the battery was dead - which wasn't strictly true as I managed to charge it up with my CTEK conditioner fine). I've got some Shell Helix HX7 10W40 semi-synthetic ready to put in as a temporary flush oil when it is all back together.



Once I am done with the front end engine seal and all the standard service items I will be doing a fuel pressure check to make sure the fuel pressure regulator hasn't gone bad (hoping not as they seem to be around £300!). I will keep an eye on the new spark plugs to see if any of the cylinders is getting overfueled. The picture of the spark plug in the posts above is from cylinder #1 and was very black and sooty, I haven't checked the others yet...

And then there was the goddamn oil filter that Jeff Capes tightened up... I tried a oil filter socket wrench (that just slipped). Then I tried my oil filter chain wrench (it moved about a mm or two and then proceeded to start squashing the filter and punctured it). I then resorted to the screwdriver stabbed through the side method and still couldn't get enough torque to get it to turn (perhaps needed an extra long screwdriver). So now I've decided to sacrifice my oil filter socket wrench and stuck it to the top of the oil filter with some araldite. Going to let it cure for a good couple of days and then give it another go. I'm hoping that should do the trick as I've had good results with araldite before. If that fails than hell knows what I will do - probably cry! Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always coat the sealing washer with oil when fitting a new filter they do not need to be silly tight, hand tight and a nip !
I have tons of 944 turbo bits if you are stuck for anything, probably got one in a box
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My car has refused to start, replaced the hall sensors, speed and refernce, DME relay fine, ECU fine, still no spark or fuel......it is starting to push my buttons now.
Just realised that I have had mine " back" for 11 years now, owned previously, when it is fettled they are great, full brake rebuild last year, cooling system this year when up and running again.
88 Turbos S Solid Black (M758)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jim,

Just in case it is the same problem you are experiencing, my old 944T was a bitch at times for starting. It was eventually correctly diagnosed by D&G as the connections with the DME failing. It was as if someone had previously put the relay in incorrectly and it simply did not allow the pins on the relay to bed correctly.

Worth a look I think, good luck.

Cheers, Keith.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely sounds like the DME if you aren't getting fuel or a spark, have you tried jumping the connections on the fuse box to see if you can get the fuel pump working? That will help you rule out if the fuel pump is bad. The injectors shutoff automatically if there isn't enough fuel pressure in the rail.

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/fuel-05.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers all for the replies, I carry 2 spare DME relays, checked mine out on a friends car, that said I will check the connectors on the relay board, removing the immoboliser this weekend which is at least 15 years old as a Thatcham approved jobbie wires into the ignition and fuel circuit, I will get there and let you all know when I do.
A previous dodgy start issue was a tiny bit of corrosion on the King lead connector on the distributor cap which caused some head scratching initially.
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