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Jgr
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:06 pm    Post subject: High mileage turbo Reply with quote

Hi everyone, I’m back in the market looking for a new 996 after having to reject the c4s I bought (turned out as clocked, if anyone is looking at a black C4s at a dealer in the south let me know, I’m happy to share my bad experience to avoid others having to go through the same) anyway back on tracks, what is the concensus on high mile turbos? It will be a second car for me so minimal mileage a year.

Would be good to hear the do’s and don’t of these as not clued up on turbos.

Any help/guidance is appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How high is high?

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend with one that has over 100k miles on it now. He has spent thousands on suspension recently but there were plenty of expensive trips to the garage before that. He’s had it for over 5 years now and uses it as a DD. It’s only recently that he’s started to consider replacing it with something more suitable.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Around 100k miles. I suppose it depends partially on its history and servicing completed but is there anything that is a time bomb waiting to go around the 100k. Cheers
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jgr wrote:
Around 100k miles. I suppose it depends partially on its history and servicing completed but is there anything that is a time bomb waiting to go around the 100k. Cheers


I think the answer to this is generally no although it probably makes sense to get a PPI
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only the usual things that go. Corrosion seems to make itself known as they get older and that’s not mileage specific. He’s had the engine out every other year lately due to some pipe or other.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jgr wrote:
...... I suppose it depends partially on its history and servicing completed but is there anything that is a time bomb waiting to go around the 100k. Cheers


Actually it depends completely upon on history (use) and servicing.

There's nothing on any car that has a specific mileage related life expectancy. If the car is maintained correctly and not subject to regular abuse there's no reason why the mileage should be a concern. The caveat is that the asking price should always reflect the fact that it will be worth less than an otherwise similar but lower mileage example.

Age is a different thing as consumables can deteriorate with time regardless of mileage. In many cases lack of use can make this worse.

There's nothing to be scared of about considering a Turbo but being confident of the service history and getting the current condition of consumable items professionally checked are critical.

Good Luck
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If high miles you want to know its not been run on the cheap. If its had the coolant manifolds sorted, been regularly maintained with receipts, and not been excessively modified then there's nothing to worry about - certainly no more (and probably much less) than other cars with similar mileages.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks T8, your right I need to go in with eyes wide open, even though this one is at a dealer and appears to have good history ill still get a PPI. ive tried to contact the previous owner but to no avail as I know he part exchanged it to an Audi main dealer and there may be a reason for the part ex. Rust is a good point, its easy to forget how old the early 996 are and what's potentially lurking behind the arch liners. appreciate the advice guys.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ragpicker, ill check on the manifolds

cheers
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
Jgr wrote:
...... I suppose it depends partially on its history and servicing completed but is there anything that is a time bomb waiting to go around the 100k. Cheers


Actually it depends completely upon on history (use) and servicing.

There's nothing on any car that has a specific mileage related life expectancy. If the car is maintained correctly and not subject to regular abuse there's no reason why the mileage should be a concern. The caveat is that the asking price should always reflect the fact that it will be worth less than an otherwise similar but lower mileage example.

Age is a different thing as consumables can deteriorate with time regardless of mileage. In many cases lack of use can make this worse.

There's nothing to be scared of about considering a Turbo but being confident of the service history and getting the current condition of consumable items professionally checked are critical.

Good Luck


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy Ragpicker's car Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing big to really concern yourself with, but just be aware that a lot of the consumables will be coming up to being replaced (or, even better, have already been replaced!) Normally starting around 80k miles.

The "big" ticket items are the following, so if they've been done then ideal - otherwise it's likely they'll need doing in your ownership. Most of these things are usually done by 100k miles:

    Turbo Manifolds
    Suspension components
    Radiators & AC stuff
    Coolant Pipes
    Clutch (if manual)
    Brakes Discs & Pads
    Tyres
    Stonechips on Front Bumper, Wings, Bonnet



I would happily buy a 100k+ mileage Turbo if it had most of the above done, but if it needed them all then you're likely going to end up paying more than a lower mileage car.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
Buy Ragpicker's car Thumb

but Ragpicker did say if it has "not been excessively modified then there's nothing to worry about" Surprised Floor Floor Surprised
very funny!!!
but on a serious note I would buy ragpickers tomorrow, and any modifications if done correctly and sympathetically only make a great car better IMHO Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a "high mileage turbo at 107k miles a few years ago. I am at 120k. Every single part I had ever had to replace was age related and not mileage related. One thing to keep in mind is to take advice of people who actually have experience of high mileage cars "hear say" comments should be taken with a pinch of salt. My comment on that is not directed at anyone but just logic thumbsup
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I opened this thread thinking it was about high mileage turbos.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a32639/this-porsche-996-turbo-for-sale-has-an-absurd-590000-miles-on-it/


100k in 15 years would seem quite low usage to me. Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex wrote:
I opened this thread thinking it was about high mileage turbos.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a32639/this-porsche-996-turbo-for-sale-has-an-absurd-590000-miles-on-it/


100k in 15 years would seem quite low usage to me. Dont know


That’s 590k is impressive and some hours behind the wheel, e92 thanks for that, good to hear another one happily running and adding the miles.
 
  
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