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Wattso
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 12:51 pm    Post subject: Wattso's 997 C2S Reply with quote

Hi All, long time lurker on these forums as my Dad owns a 996 and I’ve been dreaming of a 911 since I can remember.

I currently have a very well looked after and sound Boxster 986s (may be for sale soon, PM if interested) which I enjoy as a second car to my company car (Golf GTE) have always wanted a 911 but due to being between London and the Northwest doing ~10k per year had thought that it wouldn’t be a good idea. After a bit of man maths and with my company car coming to an end soon I’ve deiced to entertain the idea and see how it goes. It won't be a daily driver as I don't need to do commuting miles but will be used weekly in one way or another.

Although I currently really enjoy getting the roof down on the Boxster for leisure driving I felt like I wanted the ‘quintessential’ 911 and therefore was after a manual coupe rather than a cab or PDK/TIP (even though I’ll be doing London driving and motorway miles). With doing the miles and parking in London my primary concern was finding a 997 which had a strong mechanical foundation which I could rely on, therefore a Hartech engine was highly desirable.

I made a quick purchase on this Black 997 C2S, which had £10k of Haretch work done ~30k ago particularly on bank 1 where the engine had bore scoring.

Some quick pictures of the car are below after driving for a few days and not having cleaned it yet so it’s filthy, plenty of better pictures will be on the way!

Still crunching man math figures in my head about running this as my only car, the current plan is to do that but I may decide to have it as a second car or even just to enjoy it over the summer and replace with something else to commute, nevertheless it was the right car at the right time when I bought it and my dream has always been to own a 911.

Unfortunately, I’ll be away from the car for the next few weeks so it will be in the custody of my father who will sort out the first major service etc. The detail etc will have to wait until I can spend a weekend with it 

The below is a brain dump of what I’m thinking of doing with the car, some will be a priority, some will happen in slower time and some I may never get round to. I’m wanting to share my ownership experience and progress against the below in this thread as I have enjoyed reading other people’s threads and hope I can benefit from the forums experience and wisdom along the way.



Mechanical: This is largely dependent on what comes out of the Gold major service / inspection by Haretch, these are some things I’ve identified thus far:

- Investigate brake shudder when braking high speed
- Possible new shocks
- Knocking from rear, possibly control arms
- Driver’s side window doesn’t always drop properly
- Get 3rd party opinion on gear shift, believe it has a short shift kit on it

Exterior:
- Full detail by myself including machine polish and multiple layers of Autoglym HD
- Wheels off underbody and wheel arch cleaning
- Change wheels, probably to 997 Turbo wheels or other Porsche OEM (PM me if anyone is interested in a swap or to purchase)
- Possibly change tailpipes
- Put my private plate on

Interior:
- Deep clean of carpets, clean and treatment of leather
- Plastidip / respray of center console to spruce up possibly get in on the group buy ( http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=132379 )
- Replace door sills which are scratched in parts
- Replacement air con switches ( perhaps from https://www.climaterepair.co.uk/?page_id=65 )
- Refurb of Gearstick and Handbrake
- Fix sat nav reception issue or replace with newer Carplay headunit ( prev owner believes that when the windscreen was replaced it wasn’t plugged back in to act as an aerial, hence sat nav thinks it’s in Belgium and radio reception is poor ) any thoughts on this?
- LED lights throughout

Possible Modifications:
- Topgear switchable exhaust
- Hubcentric spacers, 15 rear, 5 / 7 front
- Possible removal of H&R springs for OEM, undecided
- Maybe ARBs?









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DucatiRob
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the purchase Thumb

Looks like a cracking car and base for some mods :thumb the only thing I would add is a cheapie eBay short shift kit, brilliant mod for almost no money Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a belting car. Well done on bagging your first 911 Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely car - great colour combo!
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great, for me keep the wheels look so much better than the turbo Thumb
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Wattso
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the positive comments.

Re: the wheels, I’ve just always had a thing for oem look I guess, I’ve done the whole external mod thing with golf gti’s and Renault Clio’s. after a standard look now, I like them but not for me.

Re: short shift, I actually believe it already has one on it, feels very different to the boxster and I’m slightly undecided on it, looking to get a 3rd party opinion on if that’s just what they’re like or if it needs tightening or something. Thanks for reminding me to add that to my list Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats. Pinged you a PM
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard so see properly from the pic of the rear but you tips look a little low to me, may be just the positioning but could be your engine mounts are a little tired Question If they are it won't help your shifting. Changed mine for Rennline semi solids and the shifting improved massively!
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DucatiRob wrote:
Hard so see properly from the pic of the rear but you tips look a little low to me, may be just the positioning but could be your engine mounts are a little tired Question If they are it won't help your shifting. Changed mine for Rennline semi solids and the shifting improved massively!


Following our Engine Mount diagnosis and replacements, expect all forumites to have their car images scrutinised by the honorary inspectors, including Ducatirob and myself.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats. Thumb Presumably those wheels are Sport Classic replicas and not genuine?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great choice , great car enjoy
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being in Cheshire, you must join us for the monthly catch up on the outskirts of Wilmslow. Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car looks great , like the wheels on there already thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great car, looks good dirty too!
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
Being in Cheshire, you must join us for the monthly catch up on the outskirts of Wilmslow. Thumb


+1.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping all my fingers and toes crossed for you Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to 911 ownership and to the contributing side of 911uk.

Looking forward to hearing of your early impressions and following your progress. Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great car. Well done.
Looks like you are enjoying it already! thumbsup
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome. I do enjoy a project thread. Grin
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the positive comments all. I’ll be away from the car for a few weeks so impressions and progress may be a bit delayed.

Latest update is it’s booked in to Hartech on the 12 June (their earliest slot, these guys are in serious demand!) For a gold major service, this should put to bed any doubt caused by the ‘other’ thread. From this point i’ll also have a clear way to proceed to get the car in tip top shape.

I’m also meeting a forum member on Saturday to pick up some exciting things...

DucatiRob wrote:
Hard so see properly from the pic of the rear but you tips look a little low to me, may be just the positioning but could be your engine mounts are a little tired Question If they are it won't help your shifting. Changed mine for Rennline semi solids and the shifting improved massively!

Cheers Rob, I’ve asked Hartech to investigate the shifting specifically so i’m sure they’ll let me know if they recommend new mounts Thumb
Think there’s an element of me not being used to the short shifter too, although to me at least my old 986s feels much better than the 997.

@FZP - Would love to come along to a meet, where can I find details?
 
  
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