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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
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This is a bit odd!!

A member since 2017 makes only 1 post and it's to regurgitate a post I made 2 months ago with no explanation!

Must be an R 3 member!


I thought it was your “other” account Grin


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has the cretins been charged as yet with anything criminal?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've received an update on companies house this morning:

23 Jan 2020 Administrator's progress report
This document is being processed and will be available in 5 days.

Will be interesting to see what that says. Link here....

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06023490/filing-history
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Writing was on the wall a while back.

If SOR cars were being declared as company stock it was just a matter of time.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patpending wrote:
Writing was on the wall a while back.

If SOR cars were being declared as company stock it was just a matter of time.


Much much more to it than that Hand
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking forward to reading the report but I suspect I wont have much to say with very little progress since the previous report.
It's what the Police are doing .................. or not - that will be more interesting.

In the meantime what news of Andy and Sammy, he must be working somewhere and is Sammy still doing great public service - I think we should be told.

Pergoda do you have news that you can share?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of Sammys interests on linkedin is the Yorkshire mafia group Surprised

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1260737/

not sure if its solely for garages in Yorkshire that group Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
I've received an update on companies house this morning:

23 Jan 2020 Administrator's progress report
This document is being processed and will be available in 5 days.

Will be interesting to see what that says. Link here....

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06023490/filing-history


Looks like the link has been updated with the file, but I haven't had a chance to look at it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically tells you nothing.

Administrators spent a lot of time and money running around having meetings but ultimately:

They will not recover any money to pay any creditors to any meaningful degree

There is an ongoing case with the North Yorkshire Police
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mikeluke says nothing new in the report.
What is interesting to me is that the Administrators appear to have been taken in as well. When they took on the case they were under the impression there was c£1m in assets, that would lead to a handsome fee for them. As we now know there is next to nothing of any great value plus any car assets that turn up are likely to have a good legal claim by their 'rightful' owners. So this leaves the Administrators with a lot of costs and no means of payment. I think they have only carried on this long because they want to be seen to assist the Police, no bad thing helping Mr Plod. I think they would have been long gone once they knew there was no money to speak of.
And, why did only one of 17 aggrieved customers go legal and wind up Gmund, it was some plate spinning exercise keeping them all quiet.
I look forward to the legal case if there is one, or will this be passed off as another badly run business that ran out of money having sold all its stock?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Needs some old fashioned methods to be enforced

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HCS911 I think I suggested that a few months ago but it didn't get a lot of support!
As I said then in this part of the world its the norm to sort out bad behaviour, it discourages others from ripping people off.
Hoping the law will protect you often leaves people disappointed and out of pocket, something we all know but don't want to believe.
Had someone got seriously stroppy at Gmund a year or so ago it may have saved others a lot of heartache and money.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creditors are estimated 1.5m + Surprised not sure whats worse that or the administrators charging £285 an hour nooo
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My take on it is:

People have been ripped off to the tune of about £1.5M
At the moment, the Administrators have no idea where this money is
No-one is going to get paid anything
Up to the Police to take any action with Mearns
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also offered in assisting at least one of the victims of this whole debacle, I’m no expert in these matters but rarely find myself on the receiving end of an untrustworthy deal, I do try as all would do to exercise diligence when dealing with an unknown, unfortunately sometimes we can all quite easily loose track of what is happening around us as modern day life is so hectic !

I did once invite myself and 3 friends into a showroom for an impromptu party, after leaving that location in a bit of a state we then made our way towards the home of the owner, fortunately by the time we arrived nearly all was resolved, there were the charges he had incurred, plus our expenses and then a bit on top which he agreed to pay, in cash...... as long as we waited outside the property where he was heading in the car that he couldn’t remember taking into stock,

I have very little patience for following the Law when being Dry Humped “illegally” by some one who is trying to hide behind the very fabric that they are exposing their victims to. It’s a 2 way range ! If your giving it anticipate incoming, heavy and accurate !
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the last few people have said he really needed a visit from someone with a more "direct" approach. I was also chastised for mentioning that previously.
Emails, flying banners above his premises, T shirts & stickers on your car didn't work. These people are experts at running rings around the normal person & don't care as there are always more people to fleece. How many time does Watchdog return a few years later to the same person running the same scam.
Administrators have given up, police, they do their job but the courts let them down. He will, assuming it goes to court with his very expensive lawyer get at most a modest fine & perhaps community service & be back doing what he is good at, unfortunately with Gmund2
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmmmm

The High Court recently made the first order in an insolvency case under new powers to seek compensation from disqualified directors.
Kevin William Eagling, was disqualified for the maximum 15 year period in May 2019 for transferring £559,484 from Noble Vintners Limited to a second company he was sole director of, in the year before the wine investment vehicle entered a creditors’ voluntary liquidation in June 2017.
Compensation orders were introduced in the Small Business, Enterprise and Employment Act 2015 and enables the Insolvency Service to seek compensation for misconduct occurring after that date in companies in insolvency proceedings. The additional power provides an avenue for us to seek redress for creditors who have lost a clearly identifiable amount.
Mr Eagling now resides in Northern Cyprus and the Insolvency Service is attempting to enforce recovery from him
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More here....

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/creditors-entitled-to-receive-500k-following-compensation-order

If I was a creditor I would be exploring this new legislation in more details Thumb
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