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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 10:08 pm    Post subject: Zunsport grille and Porsche warranty Reply with quote

I’m thinking of fitting a Zunsport grille to the front of my 991.2 GTS, will this affect the Porsche warranty? I’m going to omit the centre grille and just go with outer and outer centre pieces I think.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless it specifically causes a warranty claim it won't be a problem BUT you will need to remove them to pass a 111 point check when renewal time comes.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I don't get with the OPC warranty... I've just fitted a set to the 911 as I dont want rad repair/change bills.. they're in black and look good and do a great job...so much so I'm thinking of getting them for the Cayenne too which has warranty...surely an owner fitting these helps the warranty company out?
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a helpful thread about this the other day.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
Unless it specifically causes a warranty claim it won't be a problem BUT you will need to remove them to pass a 111 point check when renewal time comes.


Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OPC Reading refused to do the 111 check with mine fitted (but they did kindly offer to remove them for £273...) - I took them off, got the check done and then stuck them back on.

Mate of mine has a 981 Cayman S - took it to Porsche Brooklands to get the 111 point check done and they did not even comment on the grills...

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's because Porsche Brooklands is independantly owned and why my Cayenne is booked in there next month for a major service, they beat both Reading and Guildford (owned by Porsche) by £300...
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooklands - presume that means that they also keep within the confines of your warranty? Might remember that when it comes to servicing time.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are an official Porsche service centre just independently owned... why wouldn't they?
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can i just humbly add ..

the Ruling from Porsche was and i expect still is that ..

No Third party items can be fitted and passed on a 111 point check .

Its a blanket rule to stop any confusion from different OPC,s thinking this part is ok whilst that part isn't .

NO third party items period is what Porsche means .

Yup i agree its stupid .. porsche even fit grills on some models and what difference a non Porsche battery will make is beyond me .. its not even covered by the warranty .

it was deemed a bit of a joke back when i used to do them to the point the service manager had a photo of a porsche battery he used to lay on top of the non porsche ones fitted .



I can only assume some OPS,s are either ignoring the rules or haven't read them which i find very doubtful .

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Some customers have complained that Armorfend has failed the check .. i know of at least one OPC that has been told by Porsche they can pass vehicles with this fitted ..

In short if you complain to Porsche you may get the decision reversed .
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as another point of interest to this topic.

I was in Porsche Wolverhampton yesterday and there was a gen 1 991GTS in their showroom for sale with these fitted. Given they sell their used cars with the Porsche 2 year warranty I was surprised to see them still on there.

Interestingly it also had gen 2 LED side repeaters but given they're original Porsche items I imagine they can be accepted a little easier.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:23 am    Post subject: Zunsport grills fitted - side Reply with quote

After just about every other Porsche owner I met telling me to fit some type of guard over the front side pods I have taken the plunge and fitted the Zunsport side grills. Fitment was straight forward once you understand how they fit and just how snug they are. At one stage during the initial install I contemplated sending them back on the grounds they must have sent me the wrong set!... Thats how snug they are. A small bit of masking tape around the lower valance on fitment is essential to avoid marking the paintwork. Removal and re-fitment is probably around 5-10 mins a side once fitment is mastered. Factor significantly longer if its the first set you have ever done! The clips which secure the bottom and middle grills are finger fumbling tricky to fit and remove. But doable as I have removed and re-installed mine several times to see how they work. So can be removed for warranty renewal. They are extremely subtle.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a used set of these for the front of my BGTS, Ive fitted them and if I'm honest I don't think I'm too in love with the look of them,although I expect that I will forget they are there or they may even grow on me a bit in the future. The thought that they could save my rads might encourage me to like them.

The thing that I cant get my head around is why would Porsche not provide a grille in the first place - surely radiators in a fast car need to be protected from stones and debris?

Also, if they aren't doing any harm, why would they invalidate a warranty in any way?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilpert wrote:
I just bought a used set of these for the front of my BGTS, Ive fitted them and if I'm honest I don't think I'm too in love with the look of them,although I expect that I will forget they are there or they may even grow on me a bit in the future. The thought that they could save my rads might encourage me to like them.

The thing that I cant get my head around is why would Porsche not provide a grille in the first place - surely radiators in a fast car need to be protected from stones and debris?

Also, if they aren't doing any harm, why would they invalidate a warranty in any way?


I think that they want the rads to get damaged, think about it, how much they make on supply & fitting charges....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had a couple of 996s and then 997s over 8 years I replaced one condenser for stone damage. I still think the Zunsport grills are too ugly to fit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:


The Ruling from Porsche was and i expect still is that ..

No Third party items can be fitted and passed on a 111 point check .

Its a blanket rule to stop any confusion from different OPC,s thinking this part is ok whilst that part isn't .

NO third party items period is what Porsche means .





it's not right but rather like the Mot rules .. there are no grey areas ( so we are told ) its all black and white !
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still can’t workout why Porsche don’t provide grilles for protecting rads?
Doesn’t make sense.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pop a double post - deleted
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they do on some of the newer cars as it makes total sense .. but this is one of the stupid retrofit items that falls under a blanket rule .. if it's not a Porsche fitted item .. ie third party then its a fail .

My feeling ... Porsche has to say No third party items period as the mechanics are not trusted with making a sensible opinion of what should be allowed and what shouldn't ...

There is also the matter of Porsche paying to have a third party item replaced under warranty which they HAVE NOT supplied or made any profit on , on a new car... on this point i totally agree with them ... why should they , they warenty their parts .. not a third parties items .


A pass but the item is not covered would be a better alternative perhaps as long as it in no way can affect the car and cause issues .. but we are back at a blanket rule to be safe as this is impossible to say or monitor ..

A no win situation i feel .


ie my zunsport grills are corroded .. i want Porsche to pay for replacements ... hmm ..
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