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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:06 am    Post subject: How much would you expect to get off a 991.1 on for 57k Reply with quote

Hi just curious I’m looking at a few cars 50-60k at specialist dealers and official Porsche.
How much would you expect to knock off the listed price ? Or get extra things included?

I don’t want my enthusiasm to buy to mean I don’t get a good deal!

Any help much appreciated!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject: price Reply with quote

How is it priced compared to others on the market with similar spec/mileage? Have you a trade in? How has it been valued? So many things come into the equation! I still cant tell you if this is a bargain or a rip off though!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s been on their website for 2/3 weeks it’s similar in price to others with same spec..
No trade in
Cash buyer
It has a couple of features that are love or hate...
I was just curious as to whether there is a generally accepted percentage. Or amount buyers normally try to get nocked off..
Eg if I say what’s the best you can do and I will pay deposit and agree to buy today....
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never paid the advertised price for a car. I always aim for about 5% off.

If it's only been available for 2/3 weeks, you may struggle for a discount but if you don't ask, you don't get.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.
I was going to aim for £2000 off subject to advice here
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From previous experience between 5-10%. Any less id just go elsewhere to a dealer that will discount. Id be finishing at the 2k off rather than starting there Thumb
A someone has said so many variables, but theres always always a deal, don't let your heart rule your head.
One golden SBSP rule ive always used and its always worked. Grin Generally because im genuinly always buying unseen when out of the country, and thats never talk to a delaer on the phone, always e-mail.
And the tact youve mentioned is king, im buying today and want to place a deposit, music to any used car salesmen's ears.

ie start at 5 k off, you cannot offend a UCS Floor
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to me that the market is very, very slow at the moment. If you are a cash buyer, then you are in a strong position. Unless the car is something rare, and/or highly desirable, then don't let your enthusiasm deter you from a cheeky bid. If you don't try to haggle you'll kick yourself later............
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks that’s very helpful
Appreciate the advice
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I set myself a maximum based on my budget, if after lots of research it’s the car you want, offer below your budget and work towards it to agree a deal
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like house buying your first bid should be just the right side of insulting Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You’ll never get 10% off a £57k 911 that’s 6 years old, that will be their whole mark up!

I searched for over 6 months, dealers will not budge much, they all seem happy for the car to sit in stock.

It may already be priced fairly, what’s the age and spec?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was after a 991.1 C2S a few weeks ago with less than 20k miles. I could only find a few decent examples, one at Redline and the other with an OPC. Neither would budge much on the price and probably for good reason.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO if the car is keenly priced (or at an OPC) you will struggle to get more than £500 off, regardless of your selling position, so it really depends on the starting price.

But please consider this a challenge and let us know how you get on with your negotiations! thumbsup
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The car sounds quite reasonably priced to begin with subject to spec, I would have thought at least £1000 less, try for a bit more subject the bargaining power in your deal. Some main dealer OPC will give a bit & maybe throw in a service.

There's a silver 991.1 at Chester OPC with warranty for £57K is it that one.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d echo the thoughts of those above saying you won’t set much off.

Not a 991 but my recent search for aircooled or 996 GT3s had me offering £3k-£4K under and getting nowhere.

The car I bought was up for £60k and I offered £55k. They said no way.
It then dropped to £58k and I still only got another £1k off, paying £57k.

Before committing I offered a few other dealers the £57k/£58k on cars in the early £60ks and not one was at all interested.

If a car is decent and priced fairly to begin with then there’s no way you’ll get 10% off. No way at all.

I don’t look at what I’m getting off. I look at whether it’s good value and what are my other options if I pass on this one.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s all supply/demand.

If you get the dealer at the right time where they are under pressure to reduce their stock, a deal is to be had, whatever the car is.

Some gentle open questions with the sales guy can usually bring a few nuggets which may give a good indication on their current financial status/targets...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies... I’m going to watch. For 2/3 weeks there are several I like and I’ve waited 20 odd yeRs so no rush lol
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With no part-ex - you are worth money to them but their ideal scenario is no part-ex AND Finance - obviously - because they make additional commission on that. One trick is to take out the finance (because they think they're going to make loads of extra commission and discount the car more heavily to get your business). Then pay it all off inside the 14 day cooling off period!

However, like others on here have said, you can negotiate and I would either start with a more reasonable 7.5% off (assuming the car is perfect and nothing is wrong or needs fixing) or ask them what they would be willing to accept - point blank. If you get 5% (or more) from an OPC at this price level - then IMHO you're doing well but they generally have the most margin to play with anyway.

Sometimes it's just about being nice while playing the sporting game of brinksmanship - other times it's about finding the triggers. Too much stock on the forecourt. Cars that haven't shifted. Figures not so good nearing month end / quarter end is always good for discount. Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One-off the cars I like has just had the price put up! It now shows as £2000 more on the dealers website and Pistonheads...
Very odd
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting thread. All dealers will say no discount, they normally win because the head rules the heart for most buyers. IMHO there’s always a healthy discount though, just that there isn’t too much choice at the moment. The predicted crash certainly didn’t happen it’s gone the other way if anything.

Can’t remember seeing a reasonably priced 991.1 at any dealer, it’s so popular right now they are inflating normal retail prices, good for existing owners, not so good for buyers...
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