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Sean-f
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:49 pm    Post subject: Deposit paid collect his Thursday Reply with quote

New here and my first post so be gentle Laughing
I have been looking for a long while and finally found the car I was looking for and it was only 10 miles from where I live took the car out on Friday paid my deposit and collect it this Thursday it has a full Porsche history and I have managed to get a 1 year warranty which is the same cover they give to the used Astons so hoping for a trouble free year, I am concerned about the IMS but from what I have read my car been a 2006 it will have the larger bearing now my only concern is boar scoring I fear that when my year is up with Aston it will be too old to get the Porsche extended warranty so have been looking at the Hartech maintenance plan anyone have any experience of it?

this is it,
https://www.newcastleastonmartin.co.uk/used-cars/911-cu06kyw

I know it was slightly over market price but as I say its coming from Aston Martin with their warranty for a year and it has full Porsche history
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome... Good spec car, great colour!

Should be OK I think on IMSB for an 06 car... you can check from the chassis/engine no easy enough.

If you are concerned about scoring, then get it scoped ASAP or before the warranty runs out, and get it in writing that AM warranty will cover parts and labour of a comprehensive repair (i.e. all 6 cylinders).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great looking car!
As long as you're happy with it the price is irrelevant. Thumb

It isn't the IMS on that model to be concerned about, it's bore-scoring, but it's all down to how risk averse you are as to how much you want to dig into it.
A boroscope would be wise. Not sure if they've mentioned that?

Anyway, I hate to be "that guy", I'm just mentioning it. Enjoy it and I'm sure it will serve you well.

I'm not far from them either. I'm out near Morpeth. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good looking car, but I'd invest in the PPI before you pay the balance for the bore score. As we've seen recently on here, looks can be deceiving.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
Good looking car, but I'd invest in the PPI before you pay the balance for the bore score. As we've seen recently on here, looks can be deceiving.


Wise words.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome

Lovely colour... Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, nice looking car. Zoomed in on picture and left exhaust appears darker than the right. May be nothing but as above get a boroscope check by someone who knows what they are looking for. Better still get Hartech to check it for you, and yes the Hartech maintence plan is well worth having, my C2S is on it after a full rebuild by Hartech. Peace of mind Priceless Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats

Nice looking car!

The advert specifies 'Sports Exhaust' and 'Bose Sound System' are these both present?

I am also hoping that Porsche extend the warranty scheme again to cover older cars (past 14 years).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice looking car Smile Im sure your very excited, hope all is good with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Sean, congratulations on your impending purchase......I agree with all the comments above.....get it checked first....I run a 997.1 C4S , let me know if you have questions or send me a PM for advice... We have regular runs out in the region both 911UK and PCGB, often together..see you around..!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Sean thumbsup thumbsup

I'm just up the road in Killingworth and have seen that car outside Aston....Looks lovely.

There's an indy literally 5 mins away just off middle engine lane,
D&G, pop in there with it,I take mine there and i'm more than impressed with the service and knowledge Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the warm welcome, I am collecting the car tomorrow I have decided against a PPI as the warranty from AM is pretty comprehensive I will be keeping an eagle eye on oil usage and the tailpipes of any signs and plan to join the Hartech maintenance plan as soon as the warranty expires maybe a month before just in case.

again thanks for the warm welcome I have a few question but won't jam the forum up with them all at once.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd get it scoped just for peace of mind...regardless of how good the warranty is Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sean-f wrote:
Thank you for the warm welcome, I am collecting the car tomorrow I have decided against a PPI as the warranty from AM is pretty comprehensive I will be keeping an eagle eye on oil usage and the tailpipes of any signs and plan to join the Hartech maintenance plan as soon as the warranty expires maybe a month before just in case.

again thanks for the warm welcome I have a few question but won't jam the forum up with them all at once.


This is a very bad idea....
Even if you dont want to or feel the need to do a whole PPI, at least get it scoped at a Porsche specialist, that on its own is probably the best £150 you will ever spend in your entire life. Its entirely likely that any warranty company will argue until the ends of the earth that the scoring is 'fair wear and tear', and lets face it on a 997 - it unfortunately is.... Oh, and I would have thought Aston Martins policy is underwritten by an insurance company like any other manufacturor, ie it isnt actually an 'Aston Martin' warranty... its 'Aston Martin Warranty by AGS insurance'
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hertsdriver wrote:
Sean-f wrote:
Thank you for the warm welcome, I am collecting the car tomorrow I have decided against a PPI as the warranty from AM is pretty comprehensive I will be keeping an eagle eye on oil usage and the tailpipes of any signs and plan to join the Hartech maintenance plan as soon as the warranty expires maybe a month before just in case.

again thanks for the warm welcome I have a few question but won't jam the forum up with them all at once.


This is a very bad idea....
Even if you dont want to or feel the need to do a whole PPI, at least get it scoped at a Porsche specialist, that on its own is probably the best £150 you will ever spend in your entire life. Its entirely likely that any warranty company will argue until the ends of the earth that the scoring is 'fair wear and tear', and lets face it on a 997 - it unfortunately is.... Oh, and I would have thought Aston Martins policy is underwritten by an insurance company like any other manufacturor, ie it isnt actually an 'Aston Martin' warranty... its 'Aston Martin Warranty by AGS insurance'


Totally correct, added to the fact that Hartech obviously wouldn't take your car on a maintenance scheme unless they are 100% sure that it is good bet. Would you rather find out when out of warranty that your car has bore scoring and that it will potentially cost north of £12,000 to put right before Hartech or any other organisation worth their salt will take it on. Get it checked prior to picking it up or at the very least take it on the proviso that you can return it for a full refund if you take it for a borescope and it proves to be scored. Otherwise you are a fool. Harsh it may be, but I/we are trying to save you a fortune.
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Hertsdriver
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently looking at a car that has had a large cost (over £10k) engine rebuild by Hartech because of bore scoring to cylinder no 6, which took an unbelievably long time to get agreed with the (highly respected) warranty company.
Even then Hartech were only allowed to put in new liners and pistons for Bank 2 (although they put on a brace for Bank 1, and rebuilt the entire engine with new big and little ends and all new gaskets/clutch etc as you would expect). That was only done 20k or so ago but I am still arranging for a PPI and borescope for piece of mind....
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sean-f wrote:
Thank you for the warm welcome, I am collecting the car tomorrow I have decided against a PPI as the warranty from AM is pretty comprehensive I will be keeping an eagle eye on oil usage and the tailpipes of any signs and plan to join the Hartech maintenance plan as soon as the warranty expires maybe a month before just in case.

again thanks for the warm welcome I have a few question but won't jam the forum up with them all at once.


Sean...you are letting your head over take your rational mind.....and we've all done it...I know I certainly have..but I'd insist on it explicitly stating in the warranty T&C's you are covered for Borescore if you are intent on ignoring the advise of my fellow experts (I'm not one by the way).....you surely came on here for good advice...I suggest you take it ...sorry !
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:07 am    Post subject: You have decided to go ahead Reply with quote

Hi Sean,

you have decided to go ahead and buy the car - all adults here and that is a personal choice.

It comes with a warranty which 'can' be great - ensure you read it, some are better than others and some have clauses such as maximum spend on repairs. Check yours is comprehensive enough.

There were recent changes to the UK law to protect consumers including on car purchases. I know because I went through it big time two years ago with my car.

If as your posts suggest that you are going to pick it up without the appropriate checks I cannot advise you strongly enough to get it checked at a reputable dealer such as Hartech soon after purchase.
They may require it to go on their scheme though I am not sure.

It was Hartech that checked out my car and I highly recommend them, there cannot be many people who know more about Porches, especially 911 marque, than them.
You have far more rights to return the car for a refund under the amended law if you find any issues sooner rather than later.

On the + side I hope that the car is great and all good and you greatly enjoy using and owning it.

Just get the peace of mind bit as well.

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Sean-f
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly sorry for the delay in update my baby destroyed my MBP when I got home last night so I have had to bring laptop home from work tonight.
OK here we go long winded sorry.
I took everyone's advice in that I called my best friend Thursday morning he has well over 20 years in the motor trade with everything from Fiestas to a F40 in his showroom but he shut his garage late last year and I know he gets annoyed when people ask him to find a car now this is why I didn't ask for his help, he came straight to my house I explained what I was doing he said AM warranty would cover me but came along with me to pick the car up he knows the AM dealership well as it turned out my salesman was an ex-employee of my friend so I asked the question about warranty cover and was told if I blew the engine they would sort it no question and when i asked about bore score again I am completely covered so I can breath a massive sigh of relief so the deal was done and I am now the very proud owner of a shiny red 911. I did say to my friend I would like to have the Bores checked he spoke to his friend who will take a look any time I am passing he is a independent Porsche specialist ( Tom Ferguson) so I am going to do that but I have given myself the weekend off and plan to enjoy my new car.

I really do appreciate been prodded and pushed buy you guys and I can now rest easy.

again thanks for the push,

Sean-f
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy days, good to know you have it sorted!

Enjoy the new car! Thumb
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