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Croydon
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 am    Post subject: Steering wheel change options Reply with quote

Moi again.. so research done.

Straight swap for existing 993 bulky 4 spoke is the 996 wheel, retaining air bag.

Air bag delete and 964 cluster surround : 993 RS wheel or Club sport.

Anything i'm missing?

Ian
 
  
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Dream911
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve changed mine a few times and reckon the best of the bunch is the 996 3 spoke wheel. It’s the perfect size between the larger 4 spoke 993 whee and the smaller after market options. Initially I thought the smaller atiwe/raid wheels where a good option but once fitted I realised it makes the steering too heavy.


Unless your going RS spec there is not need to go for the airbag delete options.
 
  
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Croydon
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dream911 wrote:
I’ve changed mine a few times and reckon the best of the bunch is the 996 3 spoke wheel. It’s the perfect size between the larger 4 spoke 993 whee and the smaller after market options. Initially I thought the smaller atiwe/raid wheels where a good option but once fitted I realised it makes the steering too heavy.


Unless your going RS spec there is not need to go for the airbag delete options.


After a good search I think you're right, the simplicity of fitment a huge plus too. Found a decent one on eBay, ill double check condition before installation. If its needing care ill pop it off to Royal steering wheels .. again recommended for their quality work on here.

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ollster
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to get hold of a brand new techart wheel for mine a few years ago which is looks the same as the 993 wheel but is infact smaller and has a much nicer covering with thumb rests. I love it and it still looks period correct thumbsup


 
  
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nickjonesn4
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dream911 wrote:
I’ve changed mine a few times and reckon the best of the bunch is the 996 3 spoke wheel. It’s the perfect size between the larger 4 spoke 993 whee and the smaller after market options. Initially I thought the smaller atiwe/raid wheels where a good option but once fitted I realised it makes the steering too heavy.


Unless your going RS spec there is not need to go for the airbag delete options.


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering wheel change options Reply with quote

Croydon wrote:
Moi again.. so research done.

Straight swap for existing 993 bulky 4 spoke is the 996 wheel, retaining air bag.

Air bag delete and 964 cluster surround : 993 RS wheel or Club sport.

Anything i'm missing?


Wouldn't the non-airbag early 964 (normal or RS versions) also be an option? Also the 964 to 996 Cup steering wheel is another airbagless option.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996 Three Spoke is a good looking wheel and if you can find one with a leather airbag, even better. Definitely worth having the airbag should it ever be called upon... Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ollster wrote:
I managed to get hold of a brand new techart wheel for mine a few years ago which is looks the same as the 993 wheel but is infact smaller and has a much nicer covering with thumb rests. I love it and it still looks period correct thumbsup





That looks perfect. I love the look of the original wheel and think as time goes on it will become more better still. Nice that this one is so subtly different.

Jonttt is selling a RUF one isn't he? Might be a nice option?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its sold Wink

My preference was the Raid 365mm (which is slightly bigger than RS but smaller than standard 993 memory) It is also thicker and the two combined made a massive positive difference. Retains an airbag option as well and look OEM (RUF used them on the 993 originally).

I’ve recently changed for a tequipment carbon 993 wheel to match my carbon interior but the Raid wheel is better IMHO.

NB size is everything Surprised and a few mm smaller diameter makes a massive difference in a steering wheels feel eg a 340mm raid wheel in a 993 would be too small IMHO and make the steering too heavy but a 365mm was perfect (and that was in a 4S which has heavier steering to start with)

You can see my install on my journal here:
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=82158&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=166
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard 993 wheel is around 380mm, the techart one I have is 370mm, but as pointed out that 10mm makes a massive difference in feeling and steering weight. I think the rs wheel is 355mm iirc
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my wheel in situ post retrim of the wheel, dash and door tops in black leather at Dave The Trimmer


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 996 three spoke is just trying too hard.
I wanna 996
No true 993er would want this wheel.

Go Atiwe/RS

A bit costly
But so good.
 



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuttgartmetal wrote:
The 996 three spoke is just trying too hard.
I wanna 996
No true 993er would want this wheel.

Go Atiwe/RS

A bit costly
But so good.


maybe if you have an early 993. Mines a 98 so the 996 wheel was available as an option from the factory. Thumb
 
  
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Croydon
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuttgartmetal wrote:
The 996 three spoke is just trying too hard.
I wanna 996
No true 993er would want this wheel.

Go Atiwe/RS

A bit costly
But so good.


I had that wheel fitted to my 944 Turbo, great size and feel. however I don't really want to have to mess about with the boss and source a 964 surround tbf.

Ian
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Momo prototipo with a nice Porsche crest? Haven't tried it but must admit that I have been toying with the idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuttgartmetal wrote:
The 996 three spoke is just trying too hard.


You're shi!!ing me right...? It's actually less fussy than the OEM 4 Spoke and way more suited to a sports car.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I changed over my classic grey 4 spoke for the later model/996 3 spoke in black. Unfortunately I fell foul of rounding one of the two torx bolts on the original 4 spoke and to get purchase and finally remove the air bag the whole job turned in to a 3 hour job. Once off I had the new wheel on and test driven in 15 minutes. I have to say it is slightly smaller which helps but also cosmetically the contrasting black looks better and the extra view of the dials welcome.

Cheers for everyone’s help as ever.

Ian
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuttgartmetal wrote:
The 996 three spoke is just trying too hard.
I wanna 996
No true 993er would want this wheel.

Go Atiwe/RS

A bit costly
But so good.

Love this wheel so much I bought 2.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Croydon wrote:
So I changed over my classic grey 4 spoke for the later model/996 3 spoke in black. Unfortunately I fell foul of rounding one of the two torx bolts on the original 4 spoke and to get purchase and finally remove the air bag the whole job turned in to a 3 hour job. Once off I had the new wheel on and test driven in 15 minutes. I have to say it is slightly smaller which helps but also cosmetically the contrasting black looks better and the extra view of the dials welcome.

Cheers for everyone’s help as ever.

Ian


I had the rim of mine thickened a bit when it was retrimmed, think it works really well.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atiwe/RS
The whole kit was bought from Matt@type911.
Including the cowl.
The swap is a piece of cake.
Including the airbag fool/delete.
 
  
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