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MisterCorn
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a bit suprised at his technique for doing the wheel bearing, it looked very awkward to press back in properly. Obviously a huge amount of detail missing, like locking the engine and loosening tensioners when doing the IMS bearing, but enjoyable all the same. I do like the look of the convertibles. I like Mike, he is a character and has used that to do well for himself by being determined and getting on with it. Good luck to him. Ant gives good explanations of the work.
It doesn't seem as fake as Tim's antics on Car SOS.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Mike comes across as a fool. He ALWAYS starts the car to “listen to the the engine” without checking the fluids first Hand

In my view Ed was always the real star of the show. The better presenter and of course the only guy that actually did any work.

That said it is of course a TV program, and one I always enjoy watching. Perhaps in that sense Mike is a genius. I can well believe he plays to the camera and people like me get taken in by it.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
I was a bit suprised at his technique for doing the wheel bearing, it looked very awkward to press back in properly. Obviously a huge amount of detail missing, like locking the engine and loosening tensioners when doing the IMS bearing, but enjoyable all the same. I do like the look of the convertibles. I like Mike, he is a character and has used that to do well for himself by being determined and getting on with it. Good luck to him. Ant gives good explanations of the work.
It doesn't seem as fake as Tim's antics on Car SOS.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
MisterCorn wrote:
I was a bit suprised at his technique for doing the wheel bearing, it looked very awkward to press back in properly. Obviously a huge amount of detail missing, like locking the engine and loosening tensioners when doing the IMS bearing, but enjoyable all the same. I do like the look of the convertibles. I like Mike, he is a character and has used that to do well for himself by being determined and getting on with it. Good luck to him. Ant gives good explanations of the work.
It doesn't seem as fake as Tim's antics on Car SOS.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard Brewer talk at the NEC restoration show, he comes across as very arrogant and he couldn't bring himself to mention Edd, it was all about himself with the occasional reference to 'the previous chap'.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:08 am    Post subject: Brewerballs Reply with quote

On one programme he spoke of an 'infinity' he had with a car.

Mind you, I worked with a guy who put in an official report of how he walked around a premis during a visit to a sub-contractor.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheeler Dealers has always been a bit staged, with the fake buy/haggling and very often fake selling when they cant find a buyer. At one point attaboy (the production company) used to just sell the finished cars on ebay to get shot of them.

But saying that, ive always liked it and watched it up until when they moved to America & went all American. It seemed to go downhill then. However, now Ant has joined ive started watching them again, and my eldest (who is 5) now loves them. I made the mistake of sticking an old episode with Ed on the other night and my lad told me in no uncertain terms he didnt like Ed and wanted Ant. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maldren wrote:
Heard Brewer talk at the NEC restoration show, he comes across as very arrogant and he couldn't bring himself to mention Edd, it was all about himself with the occasional reference to 'the previous chap'.


Funny I heard the same talk and got totally different impression, his wife and daughter were there and he was up for a meet and greet. I know what a pain they can be, not me, but I do have a couple of well know friends who have people wonting to say hello and shake hands every where they go.

As far as the Ed bit goes, bear in mind he and his family was coming into a lot of abuse including death threats, so I guess if I was him I wouldn’t mention Ed. Sadly my understanding is that Ed did start to believe he was bigger than the show, which imo is always unfortunate for all concerned.
Apparently the U.K. series like all these make over type shows have a lot going on in the background, the guys that worked on Wheeler Dealers are now doing the work on the Drew Pritchard car show, name escapes me, it’s that good.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The episode with the vintage Cadillac is worth checking out. It was Mike and Edd’s last episode together before the split. And boy does it show. If it was scripted then it was by Alan Bennet. It’s like a painful episode of Play for Today.

People huh?

Fuzz is a legend from recent ‘dips’ which are now infamy. And a tasty drummer too. Though I find Tim excruciating to watch. I love the idea he’s such a household name he needs a disguise...
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brewer is a marmite personality. I personally can't stand him. I'm not sure if the dodgy dealer is a part he plays or his true personality. Either way I don't warm to such folk.

Ive only ever watched 1 episode of wheeler dealers. It was a 205 GTi as I was rebuilding mine at the time. It was utter dross, full of misinformation. The car later turned up on the owners forum and was pretty much fit for the scrap yard.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just watched this episode now. What tosh!

Hammering in that solid IMS bearing - WTF? Surprised

and the BS about how the old bearing felt nooo

Bet there's a few after market induction kit owners not too impressed Grin

$600 to wrap a centre console. Would've looked nicer if they'd just coded it the same colour as the car.......for $20.

What did they actually do to make the car worth $$$$ more?

Felt sorry for the seller who got conned out of a decent sale.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't realise Wheeler Dealers was an America only show now. Did Mike move it out there so he could get clothes that fit?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike's at great pains to say that it's still a UK show with mainly UK staff but the sponsors (Discovery) are US based and they want it local!?!?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that it's a show that should be taken with a pinch of salt when it comes to their "expert" advice. Even in the old days, they talked rubbish. As an example, 3 mins 20 into the clip linked below, they warn that white gunk under the oil filler of an air-cooled 911 means the head gasket may have gone!

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5cd4tc

In the latest episodes with the ever so scripted Ant, they seem to do very little to the cars on screen. A recent episode had some american van turned into a surf/camper type thing. The most impressive part was the paint job which only featured on the end result as it was outsourced and not shown on the show.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think I'll go look this one up...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if you do not take it to seriously and view it as entertainment rather than be mega serious about exactly what it takes to fix the various car issues and be to bothered about what really is needed to fix this and that.
Don't forget most folks have no clue mechanically anyway so a cut down brief easy bit of filming makes easy watching and some knowledge to take away to what goes on.
I did think the IMS was pretty good and explained it very well and the way it was explained could be understood by virtually anyone.

As for Mike yes he is a bit in your face
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Didn't realise Wheeler Dealers was an America only show now. Did Mike move it out there so he could get clothes that fit?


Floor Very good
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way he fitted those wheel bearings is troubling. He essentially pressed them in via the centre, because he installed the bearing onto the drive flange first.

The fact the retaining plate needed to be threaded up a few turns, then pressed in, etc etc should have told a story.

And the IMS, yeah, it was tosh. Utter tosh.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

overall not the worst episode ive seen

the constant IMS jibes were pretty cringe worthy
and the attitude of its "broken" because it hasnt been changed seems consistent with what i've seen on the US forums what
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

996lee wrote:
overall not the worst episode ive seen

the constant IMS jibes were pretty cringe worthy
and the attitude of its "broken" because it hasnt been changed seems consistent with what i've seen on the US forums what


But not a great show to showcase the 996

Part of the problem is that Brewer wants the bigger part in the show, so where as the format with Ed was about the fixing and the engineering (Which was far more interesting) Ant now plays 2nd fiddle to Brewer's drive for his screen time.

Ed China left the show over creative differences as they wanted to drive more product placement and less DIY engineering time.

Ant still does a great job with his limited screen time.
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