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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:13 pm    Post subject: 996 GT3 what do you think ? Reply with quote

I wonder if some of you guys would give me an opinion what’s the general thoughts on the GT3. Are they desirable, do you prefer gen 1 or 2, any major issues.

The reason for the questions, I am an air cooled fanatic and familiar with what’s what, but after the 993 I am lost. That said I have a GT3 that imo is stunning and so tempted, but as you have probably realised haven’t a bloody clue.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 996 GT3 what do you think ? Reply with quote

takeflight wrote:
"what’s the general thoughts on the GT3. Are they desirable, do you prefer gen 1 or 2, any major issues"

" I have a GT3 "

Cheers Roy


I am not sure what you are after Question You have a GT3 but want to know if they are desirable - ???

996/997/991 ??

If I was you I would pop out on a Sunday when the raods are claer and enjoy what you have.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the OP skipped a word?
I have (seen) a GT3 and tempted.. Otherwise post makes no sense.
996 GT3, yes desirable, yes overpriced now, yes a very good drive, better than a 993 even in cooking spec rather than gt3, no it's not aircooled, its not quite as pretty, it is more practical, apart from gt3s come with rear seat deleted so actually maybe less practical from that point of view.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry wine and posting, at least in my case don’t mix.

No I don’t have a 996 GT3 but I have seen one and from the pics it’s stunning so very tempted, but knowing nothing about them, or any other water cooled porsche for that matter thought I would throw it out there, to discuss.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

takeflight wrote:
Sorry wine and posting, at least in my case don’t mix.

No I don’t have a 996 GT3 but I have seen one and from the pics it’s stunning so very tempted, but knowing nothing about them, or any other water cooled porsche for that matter thought I would throw it out there, to discuss.


depends on your budget

996 Carrera's start from £15k

996 GT3's from £55k
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one I have seen is £69000.

That’s not my concern (sort of) what I would like to know from guys on here with the knowledge of water cooled what’s their opinion of 996 gt3’s
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

takeflight wrote:
The one I have seen is £69000.

That’s not my concern (sort of) what I would like to know from guys on here with the knowledge of water cooled what’s their opinion of 996 gt3’s


996 GT3, it's an all time great and defined what today's GT3 is all about

Spec's were fairly limited but it's all about the drive, cars with mod's if done well are just as good, some also have RS upgrades which again for that era of car can work well

Main difference is Comfort or Club Sport Spec

there are a few for sale, but careful with your choice and better to buy from a Porsche Specialist who knows what they're talking about

Do you have a link to the car you have in mind
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nineexcellence.com/porsche-sales/sales-996gt313.html

The pics just gets me fired up, but spending this kind of hard earned money on something you know nothing about is a bit soft in the head, hence my post here, if I was a lottery winner, well I would order it over the phone and be happy to stare at it, but I am not.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

takeflight wrote:
http://www.nineexcellence.com/porsche-sales/sales-996gt313.html

The pics just gets me fired up, but spending this kind of hard earned money on something you know nothing about is a bit soft in the head, hence my post here, if I was a lottery winner, well I would order it over the phone and be happy to stare at it, but I am not.


well you can't go wrong with a car from Nine Excellence Smile

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Specification


• Speed Yellow
• Registered 11/01/2014
• Mileage: 46,311 miles.
• Original alloys recently refurbished so spotless.
• Recent new front condensers and radiators.
• Rolling road dyno in May showed car producing very strong 399BHP.
• Big folder of all service history and receipts.
• Factory fitted Roll Cage.


Carbon bits …
• Dashboard Carbon Package (centre console, vents, top dash)
• Bucket seats backrests both in Carbon
• Three spoke steering wheel in Carbon
• Gear lever and handbrake in Carbon
• Door entry guards in Carbon


Leather bits …
• Black leather bucket seats with embossed Porsche crest
• Leather dashboard and door trim
• Sun visors in leather


Painted bits …
• Centre console painted in Speed Yellow
• Special order matching painted air vents.


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• Seat belts in yellow
• Tequipment Roll Cage
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think La Source might know the previous owner as im sure said car came to a 911UK trackday @ Silverstone a few years ago with him

There cant be many SY with yellow air vents out there
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingston wrote:
There cant be many SY with yellow air vents out there


Saw this on Sunday morning, M25.

Had vents in the front bumper:
















 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 996 GT3 what do you think ? Reply with quote

takeflight wrote:
I wonder if some of you guys would give me an opinion what’s the general thoughts on the GT3. Are they desirable, do you prefer gen 1 or 2, any major issues.

The reason for the questions, I am an air cooled fanatic and familiar with what’s what, but after the 993 I am lost. That said I have a GT3 that imo is stunning and so tempted, but as you have probably realised haven’t a bloody clue.


Clearly as an air cooled enthusiast you are looking in the right place - the engine in the 996/997 GT3 is of course the ultimate evolution of the block that Mezger designed for the 964. Thumb

A quick run down, though if you want full details then the search on here will allow you to dig considerably deeper.

The 996.1 is the original, and as such is unquestionably destined for bona-fide classic status. Many consider it the purest driver's car of the model. In the UK in particular it sold in in only very small numbers and Clubsports are particularly rare (and which are the only non-RS GT3 with a single mass flywheel from the factory).

Facelift aside, the 996.2 is essentially the bug fix. It has stronger gearbox synchros and an extra gearbox oil cooler. It has a bit more power, higher rev limit and better brakes. While fine for road use, twistier racing circuits exposed the gen 1 as being a bit under-braked for the track so the Gen 2 went to 6 piston front callipers. Ceramics were introduced as an expensive option, but to be honest if it is to see track time then you don't want them, though you will find the unsprung weight difference actually is something that you can feel through the steering. The gen 2 also wears slightly wider rubber out of the box and has cup holders and a glove box.

Personal opinion is that the Gen 2 is the better car (which is why that is the one that I used to have before I moved on to the 997.2) but the Gen 1 is likely the safer place to put your money long term if you aren't buying for track work. But that said - there simply is no regret in 996/997 GT3 ownership and all models have reasons why you might choose them over the others.

The car in your link looks a decent one - 9e have a strong reputation and if you like a bit of yellow you won't be disappointed. The only caveat is that if future collectability features in your decision making then a Clubsport would be my recommendation (if you can find a good one without too steep a premium).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:48 pm    Post subject: 996 GT3 what do you think Reply with quote

Sorry guys, had trouble posting a reply.

Thank you Colin for your comprehensive reply, the way my wife (it was her that started this Porsche addiction) and I view our cars are, we are prepared to pay the right price to get the right car and if we can have a bit of fun with them for a few years and when we have to sell, if we get our money back then we feel that we have done well. But in reality by the time you paid insurance, regular maintenance and the odd repair, unless you are going to keep a car for a very long time I am not convinced about the investment route. Maybe if your in the, buy a car for 10million and move it on for a profit in the future, but sadly we are not in that league. Also for us we like cars that are of a high standard and useable, have no interest in a concours that, IMO as had it’s history rubbed out to a degree that it’s lost it’s soul. But each to their own and that’s what the Porsche brand as, something for everyone, whether you into air cooled, water cooled, outlaw, concours, original and not forgetting 4 x 4. Anyway think we have got to view this one.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
kingston wrote:
There cant be many SY with yellow air vents out there


Saw this on Sunday morning, M25.

Had vents in the front bumper:







This ‘lives’ round by me, hadn’t seen it parked up for awhile, must have been in hibernation... Comfort, left hooker, RS bumper grills, looks very nice in yellow 👍
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely looking car (in the metal, the colour really suits the 996 GT3) and a very high spec. The dealer is a very well known specialist that many of us here have dealt with before, so if you like the car, why not?

For my money, the Gen 2 996 definitely edges the Gen 1 on looks.

Any Mezger-engined GT3, from the 996.1, right through to the unicorn spec 997.2 4.0 is a great car, the like of which no manufacturer can or will ever make again.
 
  
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