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r21
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I emailed the garage to let them know the deposit had been refunded and they replied asking if what they could do to get me interested, so a few emails later they agreed to pay for an independent Ppi including bore score check, if it’s ok then I pay the screen price, if not I walk away and get refund.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful whoever does the PPI isn't in cahoots with them.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah PPI is only as good as the person interpreting the current state of the car. OPC or one of the trusted Indies.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The choice is mine, I’ll think I’ll go with hartech
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r21 wrote:
The choice is mine, I’ll think I’ll go with hartech

A fine choice Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they do independent PPIs off site? Dont know

Don't think they do.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've sent them a message on facebook, if it needs to go to Bolton to be checked then the dealer excepts that or they don't and I don't buy the car.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What’s the best way to refurbish the nuts please?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a can of spray paint. Obviously wire brush or sand the rust off first. Alloy wheel spray from The Range is my preferred goo.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cannop wrote:
I agree with Alex, the sooty bank 2 tips and a vague "I think it's been scoped" would be enough for me not to proceed. You've dodged an expensive bullet I think!


is it THAT sooty? I always thought it'd be much more pronounced than that in effected cars?

also, i wouldnt write it off just because a lazy Polo salesman cant be bothered to chase down a previous owner...they really wont know what they're doing with a car like this and wouldnt know a bore score from a half-time score
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just be that extra diligent with a dealer that is not familiar with selling Porsche or other high performance sports cars.

In my previous search for a car I came across a 997.1 C2S at a London Lexus dealership. Passed their own in house inspection and I was due to view the car but before I organised the journey, I found somebody on here who already PPI'd the car and chose to walk away - I didn't bother wasting my time.

To be honest I would only accept a PPI or bore inspection from a Porsche Inde or engine builder who is familiar with normal wear versus scoring on these engines.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...wouldnt know a bore score from a half-time score



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basalt911 wrote:
Cannop wrote:
I agree with Alex, the sooty bank 2 tips and a vague "I think it's been scoped" would be enough for me not to proceed. You've dodged an expensive bullet I think!


is it THAT sooty? I always thought it'd be much more pronounced than that in effected cars?

also, i wouldnt write it off just because a lazy Polo salesman cant be bothered to chase down a previous owner...they really wont know what they're doing with a car like this and wouldnt know a bore score from a half-time score


Considering the car would have been cleaned before the photographs were taken I'd say that's sooty! I would walk away, YMMV.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - all I did was compare left vs right. They should look and smoke the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car is being checked out today by OCD Porsche on the Wirral, I could have pushed to get it done by Hartech but these were closer and it was easier to organise.


Should know later today if its a "lemon", VW have said the report will also go on the database VW/Audi/Porsche share so I suppose thats a good thing when it comes to resale.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fingers crossed it's a good one.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a lemon, cylinders 4,5 and 6 all knackered needs a rebuild. They would do a deal at 17k but that leaves me with a 10k rebuild cost and total cost of 27K which is way over the odds for that car.

Oh well, bullet dodged and keep looking.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wink

They knew dam well it was knackered. ***** could've saved you a ppi cost.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex wrote:
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They knew dam well it was knackered. ***** could've saved you a ppi cost.



To be fair I didnt pay for the PPI, the condition of sale was they would refund the PPI if there was a problem. The dealer and the salesman have been really honest and I feel a bit sorry for them, they px'd that car based on its FPSH and significant amount of money being spent on its upkeep, now they are left with a lemon because they didn't know the risk of buying that variant of 911
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex wrote:
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They knew dam well it was knackered. ***** could've saved you a ppi cost.


Looks like they've removed the car from retail sale as it's disappeared from their website. Let's see how long before it pops up somewhere else. At least the OP didn't get burnt on this & with the registration in the heading for the post, it'll help another purchaser dodge the bullet & hopefully it'll get fixed before it emerges again. I doubt the selling dealers warranty would have covered a repair of this magnitude btw.
 
  
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