DeMort typed :-
"I get strange faults at work .. i often have to rely on instinct for want of a better word to know were to go ..
Faults like this help me become better strange as it may seem as after the fault is fixed (and you let us know ) i can analyse how i think about these systems .
I do actually use the forum as a training excersise to be honest .. thats what i get from this anyways ."
I take my hat off to you Mr DeMort :worship: The "instinct" you type of would seem to be as the result of trying to make sense of a control strategy that in times past could be worked out by looking at wiring diagrams and knowing the actions of switches in whatever situation was being studied...?
Since the use of digital technology it seems perhaps not only the end user has been inhibited in his desire to understand the method of operation of his vehicles control systems...but mechanics/technicians too..?
:frustrated:
Sure there are code readers which can spit out a line of mnemonics that someone has created in programming in the hope that whoever reads it will then be able to work backwards to find and repair the actual fault as ideally they should know the... design function specification... of the whole system..?
Yeah, well that is an ideal world situation is it not...?
Reality is likely to be far from that when manufacturers can be VERY protective of that which they determine as "intellectual copyright" thus they tend to seek to limit access even to technicians at various levels of the actual control strategies operation.. Thus a need to know structure inhibits the possibility of understanding and repair at levels where ideally it should NOT :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
Yeah, well what would you expect from someone who identifies himself as a Luddite.... :grin: [/quote]
"I get strange faults at work .. i often have to rely on instinct for want of a better word to know were to go ..
Faults like this help me become better strange as it may seem as after the fault is fixed (and you let us know ) i can analyse how i think about these systems .
I do actually use the forum as a training excersise to be honest .. thats what i get from this anyways ."
I take my hat off to you Mr DeMort :worship: The "instinct" you type of would seem to be as the result of trying to make sense of a control strategy that in times past could be worked out by looking at wiring diagrams and knowing the actions of switches in whatever situation was being studied...?
Since the use of digital technology it seems perhaps not only the end user has been inhibited in his desire to understand the method of operation of his vehicles control systems...but mechanics/technicians too..?
:frustrated:
Sure there are code readers which can spit out a line of mnemonics that someone has created in programming in the hope that whoever reads it will then be able to work backwards to find and repair the actual fault as ideally they should know the... design function specification... of the whole system..?
Yeah, well that is an ideal world situation is it not...?
Reality is likely to be far from that when manufacturers can be VERY protective of that which they determine as "intellectual copyright" thus they tend to seek to limit access even to technicians at various levels of the actual control strategies operation.. Thus a need to know structure inhibits the possibility of understanding and repair at levels where ideally it should NOT :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
Yeah, well what would you expect from someone who identifies himself as a Luddite.... :grin: [/quote]