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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:11 pm    Post subject: Brown sticky fluid in footwell Reply with quote

Any thoughts on what a brown sticky fluid in the recess around the drivers footwell could be
The photos are from after i had sponged it and used 1001 carpet cleaner on it
It didnt have a noticeble smell or taste
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Brown sticky fluid in footwell Reply with quote

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It didnt have a noticeble smell or taste



Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's not coolant. Very distinctive taste, or dog/child/driver wee for same reason, or single malt spill for that matter.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Brown sticky fluid in footwell Reply with quote

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dt4 wrote:


It didnt have a noticeble smell or taste



Surprised

I know lol
I was hoping i would recognise it nooo
I have looked up behind the dash and pedals but cant see any sign of anything coming in from up there
Initial thoufhts were brake fluid or power steering fluid if there was a way of it getting into the cabin from up there Question
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off .. and i think you already know this .. please dont taiste any fluid .. think battery acid ! nothing to say it isnt that .

Antifreeze in any reasonable amount will make you go blind .. we used to do this back when i started .. even i dont do it these days .

Ok .. your problem ..

I assume it wasnt there when you started so to me the act of cleaning the carpet has drawn this substance to the surface ..

Back in the day i used to be a dab hand with a wet vac and this did happen from time to time .. dont even ask me about the granda est that a zoo owned and what happened after i wet vaced the carpet !

So .. i think its something in the foam under the carpet that has now been drawn up to the surface .

As to what .. something previously spilt ..maybe ..

We are by the seat but if you move forward you have the pedals .. brake / clutch if fitted use brake fluid .. it does sometimes happen that a master cyl will leak inside the car .. fluid will collect under the carpet .

I think if you had a problem then you would know by now due to lack of brakes or clutch .. so its possible this is an old leak.

You are only left with pulling up the carpet and looking at the foam .. or not cleaning it again Smile

just my 2pennys anyways .
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...hmm; Brown sticky fluid ? Diahoria Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
First off .. and i think you already know this .. please dont taiste any fluid .. think battery acid ! nothing to say it isnt that .

Antifreeze in any reasonable amount will make you go blind .. we used to do this back when i started .. even i dont do it these days .

Ok .. your problem ..

I assume it wasnt there when you started so to me the act of cleaning the carpet has drawn this substance to the surface ..

Back in the day i used to be a dab hand with a wet vac and this did happen from time to time .. dont even ask me about the granda est that a zoo owned and what happened after i wet vaced the carpet !

So .. i think its something in the foam under the carpet that has now been drawn up to the surface .

As to what .. something previously spilt ..maybe ..

We are by the seat but if you move forward you have the pedals .. brake / clutch if fitted use brake fluid .. it does sometimes happen that a master cyl will leak inside the car .. fluid will collect under the carpet .

I think if you had a problem then you would know by now due to lack of brakes or clutch .. so its possible this is an old leak.

You are only left with pulling up the carpet and looking at the foam .. or not cleaning it again Smile

just my 2pennys anyways .


Thanks deMort
That has me thinking
It was the presence of the stuff that got me cleaning, I should have taken the photo before I started the cleaning rather than after, so that rules out it being something drawn to the surface

I'll lift the battery out to see it is leaking
The thing is I cant see any sign of anything leaking from the outside to inside but maybe Im not looking in the right place or for the right signs

The brake pedal is feeling slightly spongy, I but the reservoir is full so no sign of any losses
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lifted the battery out and all is well there.
I checked the drain under the battery tray and that is clear so its not as a consequence of that drain being bunged up
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imho .. there is only x2 fluids that could actually get there with in reason . .. one is antifreeze .. it wont look like what you have and it will have a sweetish smell .. you will actually smell it in the car .

The other is brake fluid ... all you can do is look up behind the pedals .. look at the rod comeing from brake / clutch pedal and going forward .. any leak and it should be obvious .

If unsure .. just stick a camera under the pedals and take some picts .. post here or to De.Mort@virginmedia.com and ill have a look .
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
Imho .. there is only x2 fluids that could actually get there with in reason . .. one is antifreeze .. it wont look like what you have and it will have a sweetish smell .. you will actually smell it in the car .

The other is brake fluid ... all you can do is look up behind the pedals .. look at the rod comeing from brake / clutch pedal and going forward .. any leak and it should be obvious .

If unsure .. just stick a camera under the pedals and take some picts .. post here or to De.Mort@virginmedia.com and ill have a look .


Thanks again for the reply deMort
I have had my head under there again tonight and its all dry, no sign of any leaks old or new
It remains a mystery until some other symptoms appear
I am taxing it Friday so will be able to road test it (carefully)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to have stained your seats too :-0
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coke?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems odd its only at the back (seat end) of the footwell. Any sign of a leak onto the mat?

Has all the hallmarks of a soft drink spill to me. A similar thing happened to a car of mine years ago when a coke from KFC went rogue...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's try and narrow it down:

1. Is the fluid viscous like oil, or is it like water?

2. How much fluid, a small damp path or a few pints?

Rust tainted water or muddy water form your boots / shoes? Condensation that is picking up a contaiminent (mud / dirt) from somewhere on its journey to the footwell?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
Seems odd its only at the back (seat end) of the footwell. Any sign of a leak onto the mat?

Has all the hallmarks of a soft drink spill to me. A similar thing happened to a car of mine years ago when a coke from KFC went rogue...


It seemed to have pooled around the edges
I thought soft drink too but there is no smell to it plus I havent had any soft drinks in the car and it was dampish and dirty sticky.
I cant see a sign of leaking from above or back of the carpet and nothing on the mat
I am sure I would have seen it by now if it had been present for any length of time
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

str12 wrote:
Let's try and narrow it down:

1. Is the fluid viscous like oil, or is it like water?

2. How much fluid, a small damp path or a few pints?

Rust tainted water or muddy water form your boots / shoes? Condensation that is picking up a contaiminent (mud / dirt) from somewhere on its journey to the footwell?


It didnt feel oily, it was sticky but no smell, definately not rust water
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunroof car?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chief wrote:
Sunroof car?

No sunroof
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought Question

I have seen the grease off seat runners getting transferred onto carpets in the past. Admittedly not in a Porsche though.....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chief wrote:
Just a thought Question

I have seen the grease off seat runners getting transferred onto carpets in the past. Admittedly not in a Porsche though.....


Good thinking but I am pretty sure its not grease

The bottle of coke or clutch fluid leak are those that would line up best with the mess on the carpet but I haven't had any drinks in the car plus it didn't smell or taste sugary and there is no sign of fluid leak into the cabin

It may take other symptoms to develop before the cause is revealed
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