Welcome to 911UK
The only place for Porsche, 911uk is the definitive enthusiast and resource site for the Porsche 911.
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so join up today for full access to the site and benefit from latest member offers.

Porsche Classifieds
Sell Your Porsche on 911uk
Create a Free Classified Advert
Search Ads
Classified Adverts FAQ
Trade Classified Information
Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection
Consumer Rights Act
Pre Purchase Inspection (PPI)
Porsche Car Sourcing
Porsche Cars Wanted
Official Porsche Centre Reviews
Model
Stock
Porsche 911
991 : 2011- 17
997 : 2004- 65
996 : 1997-2005 30
993 : 1993-1998 3
964 : 1989-1993 5
Carrera 3.2 : 1983-1989 2
Carrera SC : 1977-1983 2
930 Turbo : 1975-1989 0
Early 911 : 1964-1977 3
Porsche Other Models
Classic : 1950-1965 0
Boxster : 1997- 18
Cayman : 2005- 12
Cayenne : 2003- 3
Macan : 2014- 1
Panamera : 2009- 0
912-914-924-928-944-968 1
959 - CarreraGT - RaceCar 1
Car Parts For Sale & Wanted
Other Items For Sale & Wanted
Wheels Tyres For Sale & Wanted
Number Plates For Sale Wanted

Porsche Services
Porsche Body Shop Repair
Paint Protection & Wrapping
Porsche Classic Insurance
Porsche Classic Parts
Porsche Classic Restoration
Porsche Design Collection
Porsche Engine Gearbox Rebuild
Porsche Heritage & History
Porsche News
Porsche Picture Gallery
Win a New Porsche 911

Porsche Parts
Body Parts, Body Styling
Brakes, Clearance
Electrical, Exhausts
Engine Cooling, Engine Electrical
Engine Rebuild, Heating Cooling
Interior Incar, Lighting
Rubber Seals, Service Parts
Steering, Suspension
Transmission, Workshop Tools
Early 911, 911 - 930, 928 - 968
964 - 993, 996 - 997, Boxster
Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera

Porsche Model Range
911 [991] 2011-Current
Porsche 911 [991]
911 [997] 2004-Current
Porsche 911 [997]
911 [GT] GT1-GT2-GT3
Porsche 911 [GT]
911 [996] 1997-2005
Porsche 911 [996]
911 [993] 1993-1998
Porsche 911 [993]
911 [RS] RS-RSR
Porsche 911 [RS]
911 [964] 1989-1993
Porsche 911 [964]
911 3.2 1983-1989
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera
911 SC 1977-1983
Porsche 911 SC
911 [Early] 1964-1977
Porsche 911 [Early]
Boxster & Cayman
Porsche Boxster & Cayman
Cayenne & Panamera
Porsche Cayenne & Panamera

911uk Site Partners

Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message
NedHan79
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Nov 2018
Posts: 363



PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:44 pm    Post subject: Air con delete Reply with quote

Has anyone dumped their air con?
Mine dosnt work and it’s something I hardly ever use anyway.
I like the idea of getting rid of the condensers for radiator air flow reasons.

What’s involved?
Is there a smaller belt available if I remove the pump?
Is there any other problems that come with it?
Will my dash instruments still blow cold air, as in like a car with no air con, and will the heat be affected in any way?
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Marky911
Watkins Glen


Joined: 04 Jun 2009
Posts: 2177



PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madman!

That is all.
Grin
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
NedHan79
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Nov 2018
Posts: 363



PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t seem to be getting a good reception with this idea mark.

Maybe it’s a sign Question
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Marky911
Watkins Glen


Joined: 04 Jun 2009
Posts: 2177



PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just kidding Ned.

Rich ELA covered it in his thread and I think Martin maybe leaving it off, I can’t remember.

Yes a smaller belt is available.

I’d just sort it though. We are lucky that our model is the cheapest 911 to fix the aircon on. Even if you require a new compressor they’re cheap on eBay.

Try fixing a 964/993 system, you’re into thousands. Surprised

Even in a GT3 Clubsport the only option I couldn’t live without would be aircon.
Colour coded centre console is nice too mind, although easy to do. Wink


PS It’s all down to the use you have in mind. No wrong or right way. Thumb
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
NedHan79
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Nov 2018
Posts: 363



PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all the car does, I don’t need to be in any panic. I can simply slide it down the list a little.
Or maybe a lot. It’s a big list Surprised
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Martin996RSR
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Posts: 305



PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took my compressor off because it broke and was heavy(6KG). I did notice the difference, but I am a driving nerd. I left the pipes and rads in place as they aren't all that heavy and I wanted to keep it easy to reinstate. I tie wrapped bags over the exposed pipe ends in the engine bay in order to keep out dirt and moisture.

The shorter belt is easy to get hold of and fit. I looked at the smaller pulley but research showed the gain is too small to be measurable, so I didn't bother.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
benbuhagiar
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 28 Dec 2014
Posts: 327
Location: Kent

2008 Porsche 997 Carrera 2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My aircon is always on and I wouldn't buy a car without it.

You are a mad man!
_________________
997.2 Carrera PDK
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Martin996RSR
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Posts: 305



PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car is a weekend B road basher only, no commuting apart from early morning school runs of a couple of miles before the day has had a chance to warm up. If I was stuck in traffic every afternoon I would certainly re-install it.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
NedHan79
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Nov 2018
Posts: 363



PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ll b lucky if I do 2000 miles a year so I’m not worried if it works or not.
It’s purely a toy.

Can you remember where you got the belt?
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
coullstar
Barcelona


Joined: 15 Sep 2015
Posts: 1403
Location: Aberdeen/Torphins


PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive done 6000miles in mine with non working pump and smaller belt and it's fine to be honest. There a handful of days when I'd wanted it.

I will fix it but I don't think it's a total necessity IMO.
_________________
1999 C2 Coupe - http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=124107
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
crash7
Montreal


Joined: 28 May 2011
Posts: 570



PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have modified my a/c system to run with one condenser to get additional airflow to the rad.

That said I ran most of last summer without the a/c so am currently contemplating ditching it.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Long Beach


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 6738
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too.



MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
NedHan79
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Nov 2018
Posts: 363



PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been watching your progress mc. Nice job.
I’m thinking of ditching the lot. Strip it out and have done with it.
It’s good to get different opinions on the subject but I think it’s a done deal.
Where did you get the belt mc?
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
coullstar
Barcelona


Joined: 15 Sep 2015
Posts: 1403
Location: Aberdeen/Torphins


PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing you may have to watch is the car possibly running tool cold then, do you have a Low temp thermostat fitted? If you read up on that its a good thing to have to get the coolant circulating at an earlier temp.

My worry would be that fully exposed rads would then mean the car is over cooling compared to normal. I will fix mine at some point but I suppose the way I thought about it was that if the condensers are there they are protecting the rads a bit and it never runs hot anyway. You would need to rip everything out to make a difference IMO and you do have to think about resale if it occurs as it may put a lot of people off.
_________________
1999 C2 Coupe - http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=124107
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Long Beach


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 6738
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still running AC in mine, so using the standard belt. It is just that I have gone from 2 condensers down to 1. It was possible to spec the car without AC so there shouldn't be a problem with it running too cool. Note that when AC is on the fans are always running, so pulling more air through the radiators anyway. Without AC the fans would be off unless needed.

Mesh over the bumper openings to protect the radiators, otherwise muck just gets trapped between the condensers and radiators and blocks airflow through both.

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
Martin996RSR
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Posts: 305



PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go Ned:
https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod179/Drive-Belt-for-cars-WITHOUT-Aircon-Porsche--996-986-99610215165/
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
NedHan79
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Nov 2018
Posts: 363



PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.
I have a whine so I’m assuming it’s the pump. I’ll maybe just whip it out and go from there. I. Any imagine there’s too many cars specced without air con but like I said earlier, I have a sunroof so I’m not too worried about it.
If it runs to cold I’ll just fix it and stick it all back in

Thanks for the link for the belt Martin. I was assuming it was going to be some over expensive modified parts.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
maldren
Suzuka


Joined: 07 Oct 2016
Posts: 1001



PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't underestimate how hard it is to get the pump out/in. The rear bolt is tricky and you need to take the air temp sensor out, I couldn't get it back into the grommet, had to get help....
_________________
Mike
2003 996.2 C2 Coupe Arctic Silver
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
NedHan79
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Nov 2018
Posts: 363



PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. I haven’t actually had a chance to look at it yet but. I don’t want to get side tracked from the other bits I need to finish first.

Do the bolts hold anything else?
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Martin996RSR
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Posts: 305



PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember what else I had to remove, but I'm pretty sure it was just the airbox. I'm sure it's pretty simple and could be done comfortably in less than an hour, including fitting the new belt and putting the airbox back in.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   All times are GMT - 12 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum