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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:43 pm    Post subject: Which should I buy ? Reply with quote

Ok , I’ve been searching for a 996 for a while now and have narrowed it down to 2 cars with the view of purchasing one of them this week. Their both artic silver black interior, both in excellent order cosmetically for sure ,mechanically all looks ok !! Both have full service history. The first 1998 C2 3.4 has 133k on the clock and will sell for 11k , the second a 2002 c2 3.6 with 85k on the clock , asking price 16.5 k , which one do you guys think ??imonnn
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd buy the 3.4 and bag the 5.5k for any upgrades or repairs. Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though it’s on 133 k ?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just the same risk as the other on 85k for me, that could go pop anytime as well, but you wouldn't ave the 5.5 k cushion.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carpenter100 wrote:
Even though it’s on 133 k ?

Im pretty sure Alex Yates cars us on similar mileage and was given a clean blll of health. All things being equal, id bank the extra cash and put it towards any repairs later on
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

132,953 at this exact moment in time Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you buy one with 133k on it though?bearing in mind it’s all good
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...at 133 k miles the engine internals will be very,very worn...out.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it’s had regular services, why should it be ??
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not wanting to pee on your chips but I know of a 2006 997.1 3.6 manual for sale. £17750.

TIPEC members car.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - you have asked for opinions and advice on two cars that you may be interested in buying. You have questioned the wisdom, twice, when the higher mileage arctic example has been put forward as a possible contender. If you're so against it why even bother considering it?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m not totally against it or else I wouldn’t be considering it , I’m considering the higher mileage one because it’s considerably cheaper and posted on here for some thoughts from people that may have experience in owning these cars , as I don’t yet ! . Trust me the more opinions I get makes the decision a bit easier to a Porsche Laman like myself .
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d go for the newer 3.6 car and try to get the price down. I’d probably offer around £14k.
I prefer the headlights, it’s newer and circa 50,000 miles less.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're both at a mileage that could easily be in need of a rebuild very soon. 3.4 due to worn main bearings and 3.6 due to bore scoring. The main difference being the rebuild on the 3.4 for main bearings will be half the price of rebuilding the 3.6 for bore scoring.

I know which I'd choose if I had to pick one.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I’m not totally against it or else I wouldn’t be considering it , I’m considering the higher mileage one because it’s considerably cheaper and posted on here for some thoughts from people that may have experience in owning these cars , as I don’t yet ! . Trust me the more opinions I get makes the decision a bit easier to a Porsche Laman like myself .



I'm assuming that the 133k car is the same one that you were asking advice about several weeks ago. Imo if you're still not certain it's probably time to put it behind you and move on.

I don't know what your budget is but you need to make sure you have a couple of £k in reserve for getting any 996 'up to scratch' for regular use. Don't blow your budget on buying the car as buying one is only the start of 911 ownership. You can't expect to 'jump in and drive' any 16+ year old car regardless of the badge on the front.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they these two:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-996/porsche-911-996-carrera-tiptronic-s-1998/9255794

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201901053675375


If so, couple of observations. The 3.4 has heated hardback seats, the 3.6 doesn't. The 3.4 has splt rim alloys, the 3.6 has 997 alloys. The 3.4 has had an amberectomy (don't ask but IMHO means it's been owned by someone with attention to detail). The 3.6 looks like it has a crease in the Driver's side sill at the front and potentially damaged aircon pipe which is sat right behind it. The 3.4 is a tip box vs. Manual on the 3.6 so expect half a second slower to 60 on the tip. The decals have been scrubbed off the calipers on the 3.6. I'll not ask what that TV thing is in the centre console of the 3.6.

If it is those 2 cars, the 3.4 is in better shape than the 3.6 condition wise IMHO. But I'll also say this - there's plenty more lower mileage cars out there for the same money (both 3.4 & 3.6), if that bothers you.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.........and I wouldn't go near ANY 3.6 without having the engine checked for bore scoring.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Im pretty sure Alex Yates cars us on similar mileage and was given a clean blll of health. All things being equal, id bank the extra cash and put it towards any repairs later on



Alex obviously bought a good car and whilst it might have that mileage on it now it's had an awful lot of personal tlc spent on it in his tenure. Despite his undying love for his own car I'd wager he'd think very hard before spending £11k on an unknown 21 year old, 133k miler.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
I'd wager he'd think very hard before spending £11k on an unknown 21 year old


You're on.........where is she?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair Terry, it's never had any engine work done that need doing apart from replacing bank 1 solenoid last month........which I'd say is pretty decent for a car with the mileage it has.

If I was in the market for a 996 it would deffo be a 3.4 or Turbo.

I keep looking at this. Ticks all my boxes apart from being a Cat D nooo

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-911-3-6-2003MY-Turbo/254104412739
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