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GT3ZZZ
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 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: 991.2 Carrera T tuned by 9e
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I picked up a delivery miles 991.2 Carrera T late last year with an idea that it would be a great platform to modify. Out of the box, the 3.0L engine is hobbled at 370 PS so it doesn't step on more expensive models' toes.
So last week I took the plunge and took it to 9e for tuning with custom maps and a full Kline inconel exhaust including headers. Picked it up from 9e today. What a car!
It now makes around 550PS and is completely transformed from the one I dropped off last week. It feels like it has the pace of a turbo S but its much more engaging than my old 991.2 turbo S with a manual box in a narrow bodied lightweight RWD car. And it sounds fantastic.
Pulls in 2nd and 3rd gear are insane and all the way up in 7th there's loads of torque so I found I wasn't needing to change down to take advantage of gaps in the traffic. The turbos on the T are very small but you wouldn't know it. Probably helps it drive more like a NA car as there's almost no lag.
As to warranty, I don't really care  It has a boggo 3.0L Carrera engine, it's not an exotic V12. If it goes pop it can get replaced or rebuilt for a few months worth of McLaren depreciation And anyway I'd trust Ken to stand behind his work and sort it.
I'm now going to drive it for a bit and enjoy (it's my daily). Fuller write up to follow with some more miles.
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FZP
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Location: Cheshire
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Fantastic result, and now a rather unique proposition. GT3 Touring with more poke 
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Norfolk & Idea
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Location: South Yorkshire
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Brilliant, enjoy 
Took mine to 9E nearly 3 years ago and it's been an absolute joy to drive ever since. Similar upgrade too
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2008 Ducati 1098R (Track)
2016 Macan GTS
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NLW73
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Location: Yateley
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absolute hero stuff and what a result. must feel like a weapon now!!
I love the bit about a few months of McLaren depreciation and that is so true.
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ragpicker
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rabbitstew
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When porsche announced that they were turbo`ing the base models I wondered what sort of power they would get when modded. My thoughts were why would you buy the turbo when you could potentially modify the base model to turbo (ish) power.
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MaxA
Albert Park
Joined: 11 Oct 2015
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Location: Helsinki
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Lord Above. 550hp from a 3.0T? That would make it hard to chase you down.
I see that you have new headers (exhaust manifolds) but are you still on the stock turbos, intercoolers, intake? How much boost are you running? And still driveable? Did you get it dyno'd?
I'd love to learn more.
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996ttalot
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Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Location: Horley Gatwick
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We have done quite a few Carrera T now, but thanks to the OP we had the car a little longer than usual to do a lot more tuning. In fact because it was the first manual car (all the others have been PDK) we have detuned it quite a bit in the midrange to help the clutch.
Stock car made 325whp and now showing around 490whp. Stock 60-130 was 11.7 seconds and with two persons (190kgs total) and full tank we are at 9 seconds (customer will be in the 8.xx range). It is very similar to 996 Turbo (same sort of times).
Turbos are very small (49mm wheels)
This car has full inconel Kline system with manifolds, tuning etc.
We have found out a few tricks on the Carrera T/S/GTS which helps with additional performance but that is our ip and boost strategy again is for us to know.
Intercoolers are in development. Intake is very different on these cars.
Car performance is night and day difference - these cars with right fuel etc can run under 8 seconds 60-130.
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coullstar
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Ace, probably what I was do of I was to buy a new 911. Manual T in red with full buckets and RWS with the 5 spoke wheels. Not that I've thought about it  .
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MaxA
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Thanks 9e/996ttalot for sharing. Now I know where to go once I get my 992.
Do you happen to have any graphs showing power and torque?
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Norfolk & Idea
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| 996ttalot wrote: | We have done quite a few Carrera T now, but thanks to the OP we had the car a little longer than usual to do a lot more tuning. In fact because it was the first manual car (all the others have been PDK) we have detuned it quite a bit in the midrange to help the clutch.
Stock car made 325whp and now showing around 490whp. Stock 60-130 was 11.7 seconds and with two persons (190kgs total) and full tank we are at 9 seconds (customer will be in the 8.xx range). It is very similar to 996 Turbo (same sort of times).
Turbos are very small (49mm wheels)
This car has full inconel Kline system with manifolds, tuning etc.
We have found out a few tricks on the Carrera T/S/GTS which helps with additional performance but that is our ip and boost strategy again is for us to know.
Intercoolers are in development. Intake is very different on these cars.
Car performance is night and day difference - these cars with right fuel etc can run under 8 seconds 60-130. |
Hmmm, just wondering about the wifes Macan GTS... I think it's 340bhp as is. Another 150 would make it an interesting weapon. Probably do an RS4 from the lights.... Yikes!
How do I do it and not tell her?? 
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2012 997.2 Turbo Basalt Black. Bit of a 9E ing.
2008 Ducati 1098R (Track)
2016 Macan GTS
2008 Vito Sport- Household Star!
2018 Ducati Panigale V4S (Track)
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FZP
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| Norfolk & Idea wrote: | | 996ttalot wrote: | We have done quite a few Carrera T now, but thanks to the OP we had the car a little longer than usual to do a lot more tuning. In fact because it was the first manual car (all the others have been PDK) we have detuned it quite a bit in the midrange to help the clutch.
Stock car made 325whp and now showing around 490whp. Stock 60-130 was 11.7 seconds and with two persons (190kgs total) and full tank we are at 9 seconds (customer will be in the 8.xx range). It is very similar to 996 Turbo (same sort of times).
Turbos are very small (49mm wheels)
This car has full inconel Kline system with manifolds, tuning etc.
We have found out a few tricks on the Carrera T/S/GTS which helps with additional performance but that is our ip and boost strategy again is for us to know.
Intercoolers are in development. Intake is very different on these cars.
Car performance is night and day difference - these cars with right fuel etc can run under 8 seconds 60-130. |
Hmmm, just wondering about the wifes Macan GTS... I think it's 340bhp as is. Another 150 would make it an interesting weapon. Probably do an RS4 from the lights.... Yikes!
How do I do it and not tell her?? |
Easy, tell her it's going in for a recall on a dodgy flux capacitor and that it needs sorting. When you get it back and she outs her foot down, you can say that it's all down to the updated flux. 
Now go book it in 
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New997buyer
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What a result!
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Norfolk & Idea
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| FZP wrote: | | Norfolk & Idea wrote: | | 996ttalot wrote: | We have done quite a few Carrera T now, but thanks to the OP we had the car a little longer than usual to do a lot more tuning. In fact because it was the first manual car (all the others have been PDK) we have detuned it quite a bit in the midrange to help the clutch.
Stock car made 325whp and now showing around 490whp. Stock 60-130 was 11.7 seconds and with two persons (190kgs total) and full tank we are at 9 seconds (customer will be in the 8.xx range). It is very similar to 996 Turbo (same sort of times).
Turbos are very small (49mm wheels)
This car has full inconel Kline system with manifolds, tuning etc.
We have found out a few tricks on the Carrera T/S/GTS which helps with additional performance but that is our ip and boost strategy again is for us to know.
Intercoolers are in development. Intake is very different on these cars.
Car performance is night and day difference - these cars with right fuel etc can run under 8 seconds 60-130. |
Hmmm, just wondering about the wifes Macan GTS... I think it's 340bhp as is. Another 150 would make it an interesting weapon. Probably do an RS4 from the lights.... Yikes!
How do I do it and not tell her?? |
Easy, tell her it's going in for a recall on a dodgy flux capacitor and that it needs sorting. When you get it back and she outs her foot down, you can say that it's all down to the updated flux.
Now go book it in |
Fiendish! As long as it comes back the same colour she'll never know!
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2012 997.2 Turbo Basalt Black. Bit of a 9E ing.
2008 Ducati 1098R (Track)
2016 Macan GTS
2008 Vito Sport- Household Star!
2018 Ducati Panigale V4S (Track)
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spongebob squarepants
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Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Norfolk & Idea wrote: | | FZP wrote: | | Norfolk & Idea wrote: | | 996ttalot wrote: | We have done quite a few Carrera T now, but thanks to the OP we had the car a little longer than usual to do a lot more tuning. In fact because it was the first manual car (all the others have been PDK) we have detuned it quite a bit in the midrange to help the clutch.
Stock car made 325whp and now showing around 490whp. Stock 60-130 was 11.7 seconds and with two persons (190kgs total) and full tank we are at 9 seconds (customer will be in the 8.xx range). It is very similar to 996 Turbo (same sort of times).
Turbos are very small (49mm wheels)
This car has full inconel Kline system with manifolds, tuning etc.
We have found out a few tricks on the Carrera T/S/GTS which helps with additional performance but that is our ip and boost strategy again is for us to know.
Intercoolers are in development. Intake is very different on these cars.
Car performance is night and day difference - these cars with right fuel etc can run under 8 seconds 60-130. |
Hmmm, just wondering about the wifes Macan GTS... I think it's 340bhp as is. Another 150 would make it an interesting weapon. Probably do an RS4 from the lights.... Yikes!
How do I do it and not tell her?? |
Easy, tell her it's going in for a recall on a dodgy flux capacitor and that it needs sorting. When you get it back and she outs her foot down, you can say that it's all down to the updated flux.
Now go book it in |
Fiendish! As long as it comes back the same colour she'll never know! |
Silver is always good here The little woman can't distinguish between different cars if they are silver, medical fact
Some more advice from Enfield and chums on this matter....Women know your limits!
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2z6unh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT6cB6vMWYU
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Tobyone
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| MaxA wrote: | Lord Above. 550hp from a 3.0T? That would make it hard to chase you down.
I see that you have new headers (exhaust manifolds) but are you still on the stock turbos, intercoolers, intake? How much boost are you running? And still driveable? Did you get it dyno'd?
I'd love to learn more. |
Look at the Nissan Skylines 20 years ago the power reached from those engines.
So I would say how far can it go with bigger turbos etc
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GT3ZZZ
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| Tobyone wrote: | | MaxA wrote: | Lord Above. 550hp from a 3.0T? That would make it hard to chase you down.
I see that you have new headers (exhaust manifolds) but are you still on the stock turbos, intercoolers, intake? How much boost are you running? And still driveable? Did you get it dyno'd?
I'd love to learn more. |
Look at the Nissan Skylines 20 years ago the power reached from those engines.
So I would say how far can it go with bigger turbos etc |
I'm still on stock turbos, coolers and intake, going to run the car as it is for a bit and then maybe these come next. Max boost is 1.3, albeit the gauge only reads to 1.0
The T turbos are very small and could be upgraded to those from the GTS or an aftermarket set.
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mazza
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OP, fair play to you for tuning a new car under warranty!
Ken is both a gent and a genius, you’re in safe hands with him.
He’s done wonders to the 718s so no surprise that he’s come up with a special tuning package for the 991.2...
The first time you floor your car after Ken’s worked his magic is one to treasure... enjoy!
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GT3ZZZ
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| mazza wrote: | OP, fair play to you for tuning a new car under warranty!
Ken is both a gent and a genius, you’re in safe hands with him.
He’s done wonders to the 718s so no surprise that he’s come up with a special tuning package for the 991.2...
The first time you floor your car after Ken’s worked his magic is one to treasure... enjoy! |
The car is totally fabulous I've not had much chance to push on in the last few days given our winter weather but I've driven it enough to know its transformed.
Ken was good enough to lend me his 718S development car whilst he worked on mine and thats epic too! I quite fancy buying one to see where it could get to.
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911tom
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Can I ask your opinion on the tuned 718s op? What was the performance like? Also what was the noise like?
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