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cbriggs1978
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:20 pm    Post subject: Recommended Coffin arms / control arms manufacturer Reply with quote

Evening all, I have searched and many suggestions appear to be a few years old so thought it worth asking again.

I am thinking about changing the coffin and control arms on the 2002 targa, I dont have knocking but the ones on the car do seem to be original, the car tramlines quite badly, the geo was done when i got the car last year and I am about to put a full set of new boots on...... so it seems a good time to do this!

I have found, through searching online, several options, but am lost which ones are best to go for. Car is not tracked and i am not bothered about making it handle like a go kart!

What are your recommendations! (and suggested place to get from!)

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a full set of both off spyder performance on eBay a few weeks back, no complaints.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would change the coffin arms for 3 reasons ..

1/ The bush in them is debonding , the diagonal arm attatches to this and if its excessive debonding .. 50 % i belive then its an mot fail .

2/ The ball joint has worn and there is play so again an mot fail or the boot has split .

3/ The locateing bolt is seized and you cant adjust the geo to get it in spec , you will need a bolt as well in this case .

Diagonal arms are changed because they knock .. there is no play but it is annoying and Not an mot fail .

If none of the above apply then there is no point in changeing them.

Tram line is down to geo and tyres , thrust angle imho ... ill also add tyre pressures .

Were to get them .. ECP would be a good start .. after that google .
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hartech do a good line in re-furbed arms, they're based on genuine arms so you don't get the potential geo issues that a certain batch of Meyle ones had, for example.

Good prices - a set has been running for two years on my car..
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Them chep £50ers off eBay.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies, there is a "small" amount of play in the front ball joints and signs the bushes have split slightly (but no play (garage words!) and, with them appearing original, I just didnt expect them to be in good condition! Do these things last more than 100k miles?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have just bought a bunch of Meyle control arms, diagonals, drop links etc. They were recommended to me by a good source, look very good quality to me!

Good price and fast delivery here:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/tierod69/PORSCHE/_i.html?_storecat=3713487014
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbriggs1978 wrote:
Thanks for the replies, there is a "small" amount of play in the front ball joints and signs the bushes have split slightly (but no play (garage words!) and, with them appearing original, I just didnt expect them to be in good condition! Do these things last more than 100k miles?


100k! I didn't think they last 20k on the front!

I used Meyle, no complaints so far.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris at centre gravity is happy with meyle. If they're good enough for him, they are good enough for me
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinny_monkey wrote:
Chris at centre gravity is happy with meyle. If they're good enough for him, they are good enough for me


CG were also happy with the Spyder parts that they fitted for me and I was happy with the price.

So far so good.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maldren wrote:

CG were also happy with the Spyder parts that they fitted for me and I was happy with the price.
So far so good.....


Same here, one of my car's rear coffin arms is delaminating, so I've ordered Spyder parts (tuning forks too), and Center Gravity will fit and do a new geo for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
cbriggs1978 wrote:
Thanks for the replies, there is a "small" amount of play in the front ball joints and signs the bushes have split slightly (but no play (garage words!) and, with them appearing original, I just didnt expect them to be in good condition! Do these things last more than 100k miles?


100k! I didn't think they last 20k on the front!

I used Meyle, no complaints so far.


I've just changed my rears and I suspect they were the originals.....at 132k.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont forget to wax them! CG use Wurth underbody wax on them. It is ally corrosion tracking under the rubber that causes delamination of the bush. Only began appearing when Porsche stopped waxing them from new according to CG.

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maldren
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paynewright wrote:
Dont forget to wax them! CG use Wurth underbody wax on them. It is ally corrosion tracking under the rubber that causes delamination of the bush. Only began appearing when Porsche stopped waxing them from new according to CG.

Ian


and lots of ally grease on the bolts too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maldren wrote:
Paynewright wrote:
Dont forget to wax them! CG use Wurth underbody wax on them. It is ally corrosion tracking under the rubber that causes delamination of the bush. Only began appearing when Porsche stopped waxing them from new according to CG.

Ian


and lots of ally grease on the bolts too.


Agree grease/aluminium anti seize/ copper slip on the bolt shaft, but to clarify not on the thread as it leads to incorrect torquing. There are special products for that I think.

in my case, I coated the bolt shaft and then after I torqued the nuts, I covered them and everything in the wheel arch in liberal amounts of bilt hamber dynax.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found Meyle arms were slightly heavier and the casting detail wasn't as accurate as OE arms

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1104204&sid=a18c4aa6de03610c02b2ecce1506b057
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, so much info and good advice - thanks very much folks.

I will look at the options you all provided before making my selection.

I will get it up on a jack at the weekend (with a safety axle stand as well) and get a front and rear wheel off and have a good dig about and look just to satisfy myself there is a real need to change them.

ta again

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
I found Meyle arms were slightly heavier and the casting detail wasn't as accurate as OE arms

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1104204&sid=a18c4aa6de03610c02b2ecce1506b057


It was because of this and other similar posts that I went for the rebuilt Hartech arms. OEM at a fraction of the new price. And they are as good as new.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghianightmare wrote:
Agree grease/aluminium anti seize/ copper slip on the bolt shaft, but to clarify not on the thread as it leads to incorrect torquing. There are special products for that I think.


Please don't use Copperslip on the shaft, it's not good with Aluminium as it leads to corrosion.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bolts and bush are both steel. While I agree copper slip isn't the best solution - it is better than nothing and better than the water that gets in! thumbsup
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