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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, can't wait.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We are here because secretly we all want a 997 Terry.

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Grin If you did, you'd have one by now.

fwiw after 4 years in a 997 I still think I'd prefer the 996 dash in front of me ........... but that's about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fwiw after 4 years in a 997 I still think I'd prefer the 996 dash in front of me ........... but that's about it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I say what I say because I believe I am right. That is not trolling, it's just me voicing my opinion, which everyone on here has the right to do.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and as for owning a 997. I'd have bought one by now if I wanted one. I had a good chat with another forum member today (who owns a 997). We both agreed that spending double the money on a newer variant 911 wasn't gaining anything other than depreciation.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
We are here because secretly we all want a 997 INTERIORerry.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This 996 v 997 thing is a little subjective....but, like Bob Sausage T, i have had both and am fairly convinced that:
1. My old 996 C4S had the worlds finest butt.
2. But i never enjoyed the front view
3. My 997 C2S is an all round great looking car. Cracking front view, very 911, and the redesigned rear with more aggressive engine lid slats looks terrific imo.
4. The interiors do not compare the 997 is a much nicer place to sit, feels up market but also very sporty. Mondeo like? In your dreams.
5. Oh and some extra ponies in the engine room are always welcome!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...hmmm Very Happy
 



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boom! Pick that one out!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure this thread has a high banter element, but come on guys.....the OP would like more than just "this one looks nicer" comments; fairly sure he can decide that for himself.
Do they drive differently? Sound alike? Does one hold its value better than the other? Any difference in the ride quality? Running costs?

Anyone owned both and care to comment on something other than what they look like?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t mind either cars to be honest. In reference to the interior; I used to not be a fan of the 996 but, as with most cars, there’s a period of time where they look outdated, but as time moves on they look retro and cool. That’s what has happened with the 996 (it’s in that retro/cool territory).

The 997 is still new enough to be considered modern in its styling but it’s definitely moving into the outdated zone. But as the world turns it will be cool again and we’ll be having the same conversation 997 vs 991 in ten years time.

I adore the front end of the 997 but also appreciate the uniqueness of the 996 runny eggs. I don’t agree with the rear end comments as all 911s have great arses!

Regarding values of 996 vs 997 (probably 997.2 tbf) and the price hike not worth any perceived gains; that’s just market forces and nothing we can do about that. For me the premium was worth it for the reliability of the DFi lump and (hopefully) lees age related issues down to wear-and-tear. I also purchased from JZM due to their warranty so defo paid top whack.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter Of Beans wrote:
I'm sure this thread has a high banter element, but come on guys.....the OP would like more than just "this one looks nicer" comments; fairly sure he can decide that for himself.
Do they drive differently? Sound alike? Does one hold its value better than the other? Any difference in the ride quality? Running costs?

Anyone owned both and care to comment on something other than what they look like?


As said in my previous post, as far as I'm concerned the 997 is an upgrade from the 996 in just about every element of the car. The only thing negative I noticed when moved from 996-997 was the 996 felt like it had a bit more character, however if I wanted a 911 with character I wouldn't be buying water cooled.

Although I prefer the looks (both exterior and interior) of the 997, the main reason I prefer the 997 is that the 3.8S with Chrono and in sport mode is a massive step forwards from the earlier 3.4/3.6 (again IMO). In terms of holding their value, I'd say the 996 would definitely be the one to go for at the moment, 997's have a bit to come down yet.

Regardless of which car is better all round, if I had an £18k budget and wanted a 911, without question I'd be buying a 996.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert SausageTrousers wrote:


...... In terms of holding their value, I'd say the 996 would definitely be the one to go for at the moment, 997's have a bit to come down yet.



Confused

997s bottomed out in value several years ago - at about the same time as the 996 - and have risen again.

I'm pretty sure that current values of entry level cars are where they are going to stay for quite a while with 997s being a bit more expensive to buy than comparable 996s.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
Boom! Pick that one out!

Indeed !!! Hadn’t realised they were so similar.
I really need to get me a Mondeo.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
Robert SausageTrousers wrote:


...... In terms of holding their value, I'd say the 996 would definitely be the one to go for at the moment, 997's have a bit to come down yet.



Confused

997s bottomed out in value several years ago - at about the same time as the 996 - and have risen again.

I'm pretty sure that current values of entry level cars are where they are going to stay for quite a while with 997s being a bit more expensive to buy than comparable 996s.


I certainly hope you're correct!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
ragpicker wrote:
Boom! Pick that one out!

Indeed !!! Hadn’t realised they were so similar.
I really need to get me a Mondeo.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:


997s bottomed out in value several years ago - at about the same time as the 996 - and have risen again.


Standard 997s are getting cheaper and haven't bottomed out yet, unlike the Turbo.

There's quite a few now that can be had for under £20k, some even down near £15k. That was never the case a few years ago.
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