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ragpicker
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you say OP, its a 911 so you can't go far wrong.

People whinge about the interior of the 996 being 'dated' yet fawn over the god awful 964/993 interiors.

The 997 in general isn't ageing with any particular grace, whereas the 9*6 cars are actually starting to look a bit special now.

Old Pinky was ahead of his time.

The 997 is nice, don't get me wrong.... But the 996 certainly isn't any less nice.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For years (as a child) a drooled over the 911 but always thought the interior inferior, especially compared with any other super/sports car from the same era. As I grew older it always reminded me of my Escort MKII. Then the 993 came along and I thought wow, they've bought one of those Halfords centre consoles and stuck it in.........what an improvement Floor

The 996 came along and I thought they've actually got it right at last. Proper sports car look and feel to it (It was actually designed for the interior for the 993 but the plug was pulled last minute due to manufacturing costs of the rest of the car).

Then the 997 came along and we're back to something that resembles a high production Ford reps car. nooo
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:

The 997 in general isn't ageing with any particular grace, whereas the 9*6 cars are actually starting to look a bit special now.

Old Pinky was ahead of his time.



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Deffo mate!

As if Les was having a right good chat with him last year about the design.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

resigner wrote:
This for example

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-3-8-997-CARRERA-4S-AWD/303014478738?hash=item468d120392:g:qsMAAOSwmtBbPcdj:rk:4:pf:0

Cat C and D is fine if its been fixed properly, so worth getting it checked properly, but that car is probably £24k ish if not Cat C.


This car was for sale last August when I was looking to buy. I’m sure it was £19,999 then.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ll say it again the rump of a 997 just looks dumpy and wrong particularly the C4S, it’s looks like they injected too much silicone in and it’s shifted around, nice face though admittedly

996 C4S has the best arse in the motoring world, sue me if I’m wrong Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Quandry, 996 or 997? Reply with quote

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For me the 997 is far better looking, and has a much nice interior


So buy a 997!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Quandry, 996 or 997? Reply with quote

tom_nieto wrote:
Hertsdriver wrote:
For me the 997 is far better looking, and has a much nice interior


So buy a 997!


And make sure you always approach it from the front!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had both, the 997S (especially with Chrono) is leagues ahead IMO, the interior/dash far nicer and I prefer the exterior looks too. I can't really see why anyone would prefer the dash in the 996 but I suppose it's a case of each to their own, but for me the jump from 996-997 was a huge upgrade in just about every aspect of the car. I certainly wouldn't want to change back to a 996.

Regardless of 996 or 997, as others have said at the end of the day they're both 911's, dream cars, but don't buy at the bottom of the market without the backup funds to lash out some serious money if they go wrong.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the dash in a 996 looks like it should be sat in a sports car, unlike the 997's.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Because the dash in a 996 looks like it should be sat in a sports car, unlike the 997's.


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It is a bit 'Mondeo' in the 997 Dont know

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you'd agree that that point purely comes down to personal opinion, it's fair enough you disagree but I personally think the dash in the 997 is an infinitely better design.

As said though, both lovely cars!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...mondeo, no more Vauxhall insignia Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mondeo and 996 both underrated!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dash in the 996 looks like someone made it from chocolate and it has randomly melted over time in the heat, while being beaten by the ugly stick, by a blind designer, with no arms, who is American and thinks a gold toilet is a nice thing to have.

The headlights are made from what the same person rejected for the dash.

Seriously, anyone saying a 996 is a good looking car, or better looking than a 997, is just trolling, which is all Alex ever does.......

So, make your own mind up, try both, laugh at the 996, then enjoy the 997 you buy.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with a gold bog? Question
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

resigner wrote:
The dash in the 996 looks like someone made it from chocolate and it has randomly melted over time in the heat, while being beaten by the ugly stick, by a blind designer, with no arms, who is American and thinks a gold toilet is a nice thing to have.

The headlights are made from what the same person rejected for the dash.

Seriously, anyone saying a 996 is a good looking car, or better looking than a 997, is just trolling, which is all Alex ever does.......

So, make your own mind up, try both, laugh at the 996, then enjoy the 997 you buy.


Floor Floor Floor Floor Floor Floor Floor Floor

Thats got to be the funniest thing I've read all day!

Worse looking than a 997 indeed Floor

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally prefer the 996 and it was a revolution in design, unfortunately the aircooled brigade at the time didn't like change (still don't) so the internet took over and only the people who don't get brainwashed can see the 996 for what it really is. I don't remember much about it at the time it was release but the huge leap forward must have shook the rule book up especially with what else was available for any cost.

The 997 isn't a huge leap ahead from the 996, it is just a facelifted and minor tweeked 996.

I have studied the headlight design in the 996 and it is actually a work of art, the detail they put into it, they probably stood back and admired their work only for the soft of brain to pan it as it wasn't like the one's before Shoot

The 996 interior is so much more 911 that the 997, the 997 was just similar to the higher end eurobox interiors of the time and it was made very cheaply and wears badly, there is nothing like the 9*6 interior, it was one on its own.

But as with all 911's I like them for their individual uniqueness across the model.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...I think infrasilver has perfectly and eloquently addressed the relevant points thus this thread can be closed Judge
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just wondering what all these 996 fanboys are doing on the 997 sub-forum. Lurk2
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are here because secretly we all want a 997 Terry.

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