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RichiRich
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Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Location: Luxembourg
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 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:21 pm Post subject: Help please - battery (and mouse) problems
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Ok, so I didn't get to drive my 996 Turbo as much as I wanted or should have last year  . I parked it up over the winter in my garage, because I don't have any winter tyres for it - which are compulsory here in Luxembourg.
I remembered to charge it a couple of times, and roll it on the tyres a bit, but forgot for a while and now the battery is dead. Fortunately, I left the bonnet open (with the lamp disconnected, before any of you point it out).
I tried to charge it, but the charger reads 14.6V for a few seconds and then goes down to ~3.0V and refuses to charge it. Is the battery dead, or do I need a special charger?
I tried a few times to turn the charger on and off and eventually got the battery to nearly 4.0V, at which point the alarm started to sound and drained the battery dead again.
I have no clue when the battery was last replaced. Is there a way I can tell how old it is? Do I just need a new battery? If so, which one (brand
/ type / part#) should I get?
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2000 996 Turbo
Speed Yellow / Black
Ex - 2003 996 Carrera 4S
Ex - 1992 964 Turbo X33 (#777)
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Magic919
Suzuka
Joined: 05 Jun 2013
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Location: Berkshire
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They often carry the date of manufacture.
Bosch S5 or equivalent would be my suggestion for a replacement.
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asterix_the_gaul
Barcelona
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
Posts: 1271
Location: Cheshire
1999 Porsche 996 Carrera 2
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:36 pm Post subject:
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You have probably killed the battery, 6 years is not bad though, I would just pick up a new one and remember to keep it on trickle charge next time you lay up for winter
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1992 944 S2 Cabriolet, Cobalt Blue/Classic grey -gone!
1995 993 C2 Cabriolet, Midnight Blue/Marble grey -gone!
1999 996 C2 Coupe, Ocean Blue/Graphite grey
2002 E46 M3 Cabriolet, Laguna seca blue/LSB
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Kingb4
Nürburgring
Joined: 20 Jan 2018
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Location: Beds/Bucks
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Am afraid it sounds dead to me.
As a general rule, if the voltage on a car battery is less than 12v its probably knackered (some people say below 12.1v).
Lead-acid batteries aren't engineered to handle being left discharged.
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RichiRich
Suzuka
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Location: Luxembourg
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Thanks all. I had a feeling I would have to buy a new one.
I also heard that Bosch are the way to go - S4 010 or S5 010?
Being that it's dead and I can't take it to a garage to change, how much risk is there to doing myself? I've read a load of caution messages, so how risky is it?
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2000 996 Turbo
Speed Yellow / Black
Ex - 2003 996 Carrera 4S
Ex - 1992 964 Turbo X33 (#777)
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asterix_the_gaul
Barcelona
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
Posts: 1271
Location: Cheshire
1999 Porsche 996 Carrera 2
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Very easy to change, you need a 10mm socket for the terminals and 13mm for the battery clamp. Make sure you reconnect the terminals the right way round and the little vent tube on the side
Watch you tube video's, seeing it done makes all the difference..
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1992 944 S2 Cabriolet, Cobalt Blue/Classic grey -gone!
1995 993 C2 Cabriolet, Midnight Blue/Marble grey -gone!
1999 996 C2 Coupe, Ocean Blue/Graphite grey
2002 E46 M3 Cabriolet, Laguna seca blue/LSB
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deMort
Long Beach
Joined: 21 Mar 2015
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Location: Brighton
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As with any battery disconnect .. you undo the negative terminal first , so on a RHD car the o/s lead , then the positive , remove the battery clamp , 13 mm bolt.
996 and you need to have the key in the ignition and in the ignition on position .. alarm wil sound when fitting or removeing if not .
Pull out the vent tube if fitted .
I then put a towel in the boot , i climb in and i lift the battery up and onto the panel .. i then lift it out ot the car .
Be aware .. our backs are not designed to lean over and try and lift these out so the above is the best way .
10mm spanner for the lead nuts .
As mentioned above .. your battery is probably dead hence it wont charge .
After replacement , reset the windows .. close and hold the window switch in the up position for 5 seconds , input radio code if needed .
Also .. turn on the ignition but dont start the car for 30 seconds and dont touch the throttle pedal .. it resets .
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I will also add and just to be safe .. wear glasses or safety goggles .. not really needed but i prefer to say the safe way of doing things .
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RichiRich
Suzuka
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Location: Luxembourg
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:01 am Post subject:
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Thanks all, I'll give it a go.
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2000 996 Turbo
Speed Yellow / Black
Ex - 2003 996 Carrera 4S
Ex - 1992 964 Turbo X33 (#777)
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RichiRich
Suzuka
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Location: Luxembourg
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| Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:07 pm Post subject:
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So I did it 
Thanks to all of your suggestions. I went for a long drive and it felt nice to have a drive in it again, apart from...
...the only annoying thing... in the process of changing the battery, I noticed some mouse droppings in the boot, then in the engine bay, then in the car 
It must have decided to make it's home there over the winter, whilst the car was parked up in the garage.
Any ideas as to how to get rid of a resident mouse? Apart from the obvious mouse trap...
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2000 996 Turbo
Speed Yellow / Black
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Ex - 1992 964 Turbo X33 (#777)
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asterix_the_gaul
Barcelona
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
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Location: Cheshire
1999 Porsche 996 Carrera 2
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| Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:48 pm Post subject:
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Shut a cat in the car.
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1992 944 S2 Cabriolet, Cobalt Blue/Classic grey -gone!
1995 993 C2 Cabriolet, Midnight Blue/Marble grey -gone!
1999 996 C2 Coupe, Ocean Blue/Graphite grey
2002 E46 M3 Cabriolet, Laguna seca blue/LSB
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Pip1968
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Location: Blighty
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With regards to voltage see the sticker on a brand new S5 Bosch battery with regards to voltage and its guarantee:-
"Keep above 12.1V if 50% discharged" and the "Warranty Void 10.6V and 100% discharged"
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deMort
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| RichiRich wrote: | So I did it
Thanks to all of your suggestions. I went for a long drive and it felt nice to have a drive in it again, apart from...
...the only annoying thing... in the process of changing the battery, I noticed some mouse droppings in the boot, then in the engine bay, then in the car
It must have decided to make it's home there over the winter, whilst the car was parked up in the garage.
Any ideas as to how to get rid of a resident mouse? Apart from the obvious mouse trap... |
Run engine to temp and it will kill anything on the engine ..
Inside the car .. thats a big problem .. i would sugest get an Indy to look at it .. i know from experience its hard to get these little buggers out.
They run up inside a channel and can be in the back or the front of the car .. although from my experience its the back and behind the rear quarter panel at the rear .
Basically its a strip down .. they can cause a lot of damage in the areas they decide to nest .. they dont eat wire as such but they will try and remove wires if its in the way .
Mouse trap .. forget it .. they dont work .. we have tryed cheese . chocolate and various meats just in case .. it dont work .. mice will hide , you have to get the traps in the " run " they use .. and thats behind the carpets ... remove the rear panels is my suggestion .
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RichiRich
Suzuka
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:56 am Post subject:
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Not sure of the battery brand, there were no stickers whatsoever on the old battery. It now has a nice high-power battery 
I'm due to go to an indy next month hopefully, so will ask them to strip it down to find the mouse - I heard it whilst driving yesterday evening, so it's in the car rather than the engine bay. Let's hope it doesn't destroy to much in the meantime.
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2000 996 Turbo
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Ex - 1992 964 Turbo X33 (#777)
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RichiRich
Suzuka
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So I caught one of them in a humaine trap - I released the cute little thing about a kilometre from my house, so hopefully he won't find his way back anytime soon...
Most people recommeded peanut butter to catch them, but I had to improvise with almond butter instead.
Let's see how many more there are. As yet there are no more droppings inside the car since I hoovered it out
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deMort
Long Beach
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Well .. possibly problem sorted but you are far more humain than us mechaics .. thats for sure !
Best if i dont mention the nest with 7 babys in it that my collegue found once .. the insurence assor wrote the car off .. £15k of damage .. as for the mice .. hmm ...
Ive had to once work on a car that was urine soaked to the point i couldnt breath in the car .. i put a respirator on .. my knees got damp on the carpet .. it wasnt water !
Anyways .. the food item .. very usefull for me but can you say where abouts you laid the trap please .. i know well the runs the mice take in these cars and getting the trap in the right place is key to this ..
I might even let them go in future 
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RichiRich
Suzuka
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Location: Luxembourg
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:49 am Post subject:
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I reset the (humane) trap and got another (slightly smaller) mouse last night.
I basically looked for their trail by following their droppings. I then put the trap along the trail behind my BBQ, so that the trap was almost in the dark - they say you have to make it look like it could be their home.
Not sure how many more there are, but there are still no droppings inside the Porsche - I guess I caught it in time
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Ex - 1992 964 Turbo X33 (#777)
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EG-C4
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They set up shop in my C4 a couple of years ago. Nested in the cabin air filter and then ate their way into the cabin through the seals in the front bulkhead causing water ingress. They then ate the gearknob leather for added insult.
Selfset mouse traps are your friend here (Selfset is the brand name). And personally I find mini Babybel cheese to be particularly effective bait - hard enough to go on the trap but soft enough not to crumble or snap off. One mini Babybel will bait about 10 traps.
I put three traps in the passenger footwell - nailed three mice on the first night and then a fourth on the second. No more mice.
Now I've got traps all round the garage walls so it's like a death run for the little blighters as I don't want to face a repair bill like that again!
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RichiRich
Suzuka
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Location: Luxembourg
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Wow, those look like serious mouse (death) traps!!
The problem with the humane trap is that you have to clean it of course.
My problem is that I've seen how cute they are with their big eyes. I was so mad before I saw them, but now I can't kill them. My daughter wanted to keep them as a pet 
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Ex - 1992 964 Turbo X33 (#777)
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jockmog
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:38 pm Post subject: Mice Problem
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Spread some containers of peppermint oil around where the car is stored. Rodents hate the smell of peppermint.
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RichiRich
Suzuka
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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...the saga continues...
So I got into my car on Friday and noticed a tap, tap, tap noise in the roof. I banged my hand on the headliner and heard a scampering to the rear of the car, then a little left, right, etc.
So I set a trap in the car and today I caught the mouse - number 3!!
Therefore was definitely a mouse between the roof and headliner - how on earth did it get up there?
I am starting to get a little paranoid about these creatures. Everytime I drive, I'm listening for scampering feet or squeaking noises - and I'm not talking about my Porsche that is nearly 20 years old
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