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JayG60
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:02 pm    Post subject: FOR SALE - Complete 997.1 3.8S with no engine (SOLD) Reply with quote

Tough decision this, but I have to be honest with myself and realise I simply don't have the time for what I had planned with this car.

My plan was to transplant a LS3 V8 into this 997.1 3.8S as I loved the idea of something a bit different and getting back into a build again (see my build thread), but its just not going to happen so someone else can take advantage of quite a unique opportunity and either put it back as it was or build something of their own choosing

What I am selling is an unmolested Seal Grey 2005 997.1 3.8S with a removed engine. (REG is not included!)
Everything is there just to put an engine straight back in and you could have a very clean 997 for a lot less than you could go and find one for.

The car is a nice spec with Black leather, Alcantara headling, no sunroof, PSM, Big Red Brakes and 19" lobsters with mint Pirelli P zeros along with all the standard S options.

It has really clean bodywork and interior and a load of history leading up to the engine detonating.

I am after £13.5K for it as it stands which I think is a fair price given the spec and condition.

Car is located in Cheshire and in a lit, heated garage for viewing (obviously no test drives Very Happy )

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Robertb
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For clarity, is there no engine at all, or is it removed and in need of full rebuild?

How many miles has the car done?
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JayG60
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No engine at all.
It has done 100k miles
Oh and for reference it is fully HPi clear and not a CAT D or anything like that.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a cheap project... wish I had the space....
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the gear box with the car and what ancillaries from the original engine are with the car, also is the engine wiring loom with the car?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes original gearbox is with the car as is a good flywheel, clutch and pressure plate.
All the wiring loom is there even kept all sensors, throttle body and pipe work.
Brackets for everything are there as is the complete exhaust system including cats.
I still have the air con pump and power steering pump also.

Basically all that is not there is the engine itself and the inlet manifold.
 
  
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Robert SausageTrousers
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame, was looking forward to seeing this build, looks like an ideal project for someone though.
 
  
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JayG60
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert SausageTrousers wrote:
Shame, was looking forward to seeing this build, looks like an ideal project for someone though.


Thanks, to be honest I was excited about doing it, but with work, 3 Young kids and life, there is no way I could do this without something suffering.
I have considered just putting a 3.8 back in myself but even getting time for that will be a struggle which says it all really!
It will be an absolute bargain for someone if they source a 3.8 and pop it straight in there.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The challenge will be finding a complete engine for it, most breakers will want an old unit back as a surcharge, but i am looking
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trantorman wrote:
The challenge will be finding a complete engine for it, most breakers will want an old unit back as a surcharge, but i am looking


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-CARRERA-S-4S-997-911-3-8-ENGINE-SUPPLY-FITTING-inc-6-month-warranty/303017223160?hash=item468d3be3f8:g:oFYAAOSwdGFY1l5u:rk:5:pf:1&frcectupt=true

£7,500 for supply and fitting, but they do want an engine in exchange. I'd imagine another few thousand there way and they wouldn't want an exchange.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would be ideal I think and I have considered myself.

You would just need an inlet manifold (£300 max) an alternator (£150), starter motor (£50) and a few bits and pieces (£500 tops)

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253571377228
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trantorman wrote:
The challenge will be finding a complete engine for it, most breakers will want an old unit back as a surcharge, but i am looking


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it becomes to hard putting an engine together "piece meal" you would want to get a complete engine fully dressed on an outright basis, that way it de-risks the "finding the parts process" that takes so much time and always land up with a compromised outcome, based on past experience.

some of the German breakers may come up with an engine at the right price to make it viable.

For the right person its a good project.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lots out there. I am still considering just putting an engine in myself if no one takes it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reg is prob worth double the car Wink

A 100k manual in that colour and spec is prob going to be no more than £21k private as the market is tough out there and lots of cars around. Just have a look on autotrader or PH

If you could find an engine for 4K it makes sense but what about the labour on top? Starts to get marginal but if you handy with spanners then worth a punt

What about keeping it and sticking a 4 litre in there or supercharging a 3.6 motor? Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep us updated OP as I'm sure we all want a good outcome to this situation
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NLW73 wrote:
Reg is prob worth double the car Wink

A 100k manual in that colour and spec is prob going to be no more than £21k private as the market is tough out there and lots of cars around. Just have a look on autotrader or PH

If you could find an engine for 4K it makes sense but what about the labour on top? Starts to get marginal but if you handy with spanners then worth a punt

What about keeping it and sticking a 4 litre in there or supercharging a 3.6 motor? Wink


Thats what I thought. Very marginal, worth the effort??
I would be putting a Hartech engine in it, but that would end up costing you more than a decent 2nd hand one. I guess at least it would be trouble free then and its not a cat recorded car.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone is of course assuming there is no negotiation on the price...

Just for reference this is now on eBay.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1455914#1455914

If only you could put this in it! The ultimate sleeper!
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