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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyinsky wrote:
It is all bollocks. And Khan is a *****.


No need to hold back...say what you think Judge

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sday12
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes dinosaur

Now breathe....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically come 2021 any diesel vehicle (almost) built before 2014 will need to pay £12.50 a day. Not sure how people can't see this as a tax on the poorer end of society who would struggle to afford a car less than 7 years old.

Of my little fleet, only the wife's TT qualifies to come into the ULEZ, blimey!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the USA holiday planning is getting to you Tynsky but you can't come on here spouting such radical untruths as what you have stated above!

I mean, adverts on Strictly? Really?? It's on BBC for heaven's sake!

Oh, and just as an aside, let's keep it politics free. Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just revenue generation for TFL. Their own figures show the number of cars within the zones has fallen by over 10% since introduction, yet pollution has risen while speeds have fallen.

They need to raise more money, hence the increased charges. It should be noted that revenues fell in 2015-16, due t increased volume of low emission vehicles, hence the need to find other revenue streams. 80% of the money is spent on Buses.

Anything over 40 years old is exempt. Hence I will save the 997 for out of town stuff and use my 40 year old diesel Peugeot to get into town thumbsup thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitehorse wrote:
...TFL. Their own figures show the number of cars within the zones has fallen by over 10% since introduction:


Thanks for pointing that out. So we all agree it works as a way of cutting traffic! Good to hear some policies are successful. Now, about air quality...

Do we all agree that something needs to be done about traffic, congestion and air quality?

If we do, and this isn't the answer, what is?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I can’t understand is why this is required
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We’ve had Euro this and euro that engined cars for years, why is air quality worse than it was 30 years ago when engines only didn’t smoke when they were turned off. Thirty years ago central London was gridlocked, more cars in our cities now, really?

Money making and worse, restrictions on freedom are my initial thoughts.


Because the Labour government massively encouraged Diesel engine cars in the UK as being the "cleaner" solution Floor......... when everyman and his dog knew that was not right Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live half a mile inside the A406 so will have to pay whether I drive 1 mile to see my Mum or 10 miles to work or half a mile to get onto the M11 to escape London.

I always get a tube to work and never drive the car for only a mile.

I have an Audi A3 that is compliant anyway

The charge will be a consideration for me and no doubt will restrict the number of days I drive my 993. When I do take it out, I will want to make it worth my while.

Might have to buy something V8 powered that is compliant to fill the gap.
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