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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert SausageTrousers wrote:
Yeah I didn't know if I was in trouble for derailing the thread onto Corrados, so apologies if so! Laughing

I had 17 Corrados all in, every type of variant and absolutely loved the things, definitely a 'poor mans 911' as I could never afford a 911 back then and the Corrado had that 2x2 coupe with sublime handling and of course the speed sensitive spoiler and all for a significantly lower price, and they still make my head turn now if I see one on the road.


That's some going RST - I had 3 which I thought was a few; 2x 1.8 16v and a G60 - all in Tornado Red. Great cars and bar price and engine location have many similarities with 911. Also had a couple of Mk2 Sciroccos, I do love a coupe!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Option 2 for me. Best looking of the 3 cars you've mentioned Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, drive them all. a C2S is a very different drive to a C4S. The C4S is heavier and the way it moves itself along feels very different as a result. I drove 4 different C2S' and one C4S when I bought my 997.1 C2S Cabrio about 3.5 years ago. I set myself a budget of £25k, spent £30k, but Gen 2's started at £40k back then, so they were not an option.

Now, the clever money says Gen 1's will be sought after more than a Gen 2, and they are more raw, more connected if you know what I mean than a Gen 2.

Now, don't fall into the trap of "all Gen 1's will blow their engine up". It isn't true. Yes, there are problems, but IMS can be avoided easily by getting a post 2005 car with the newer IMS, and Bore Score can be checked for and prevented if you treat it right. Yearly oil changes, don't rag it before it's warm, use good oil.

I would look for a medium mile 997.1 and bank some money. A good one, assuming you want a coupe, should be around £25k at the moment. Prices have dropped in the last 6 months with all the uncertainty around from brexit etc, not just 911's, but across the entire 2nd hand car market. It's a good time to buy I think!

Get a car checked for bore score, get one based on condition, not on spec, colour, etc. Be slightly flexible. Finding your perfect spec in the right colour with the right mileage etc is hard. I got mine, except it's black and not dark blue.....

Now, I repeat, go and drive some. Do so so you can feel the difference between a bad one and a good one. Don't be afraid of going to see the better dealers like 911Virgin, RSJ, etc.

This is pretty nice and value!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-997/2005-05-porsche-911-3-8-carrera-2-s-2d-355-bhp--full-service-history/9131342
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Corrado to 911 Ownership Reply with quote

QUIKSTER wrote:
Trying to change this thread title to "Corrado to 911 Ownership" to maybe draw out other previous Corrado owners.


HELLO!

I used to have a VR6 years ago; if I had the garage space I wouldn’t mind another one, in Blackberry.

I think 997s look great, and even with Gen1 you don’t have to go the Hartech route straight away, just have some contingency fund. I have not driven any 997s, but apparently Gen 2 3.6 is pretty sweet. So, I’d go with option 3 or 4.

Just had a quick look on eBay; the red 3.6 Gen 2 at Dove House would be my choice (not sure if it’s fair or strong money though). I like the red Gen 1 3.8S aerokit at Chappell also.

Anyway, good luck with your search but whatever you do, hang on to your Corrado. Yours look great and I love the colour.

My old Ice Grey Violet:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winner!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-997/porsche-911-997-gen-ii-carrera-3-8s-with-chrono-and-bose----------------2008/9241039

Gen 2, sports chrono, manual gen 2 as well, pretty rare those!

Now, do try a cabrio, they are such great fun. People always come out with "oh but they flop about because they've had the roof chopped off", what they don't know is the 997 was designed as a cabrio, so it was stiff enough, first, then the coupe was done. Roof down, PSE on (essential!), tunnel blasting, is just the best thing ever Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should move it to a more generic sub forum too Dont know

Not just VW 'Rado fans who buy Porkers:

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=123096

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

resigner wrote:

Now, the clever money says Gen 1's will be sought after more than a Gen 2, and they are more raw, more connected if you know what I mean than a Gen 2.


I'm not sure i agree with that, maybe i'm biased as i went for the Gen 2, but my thoughts were that the Gen 2 will be more sought after as they're known for being more reliable, and still have the raw analogue feeling to drive, especially a manual. It's a completely different drive to a newer car like my Golf R even though on paper, there's not much in it in terms of numbers. Also there's not as many Gen 2's out there. That's not a dig at Gen 1's btw, i really like them (friend has one, which is for sale btw) so they're still a good prospect Thumb

I'd also say, buy on condition AND spec. Choose the options you really want/can't live without on the car (PASM/Chrono/PSE/Seats etc) to narrow your search down a bit.

My friends car is here, a Gen 1, Manual, Atlas Grey, not many options on it but some people might prefer that i guess. He's spent a lot on it over the last year or so. Could get it for less than advertised i'd say, he's got his eye on a M240i at the mo.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Corrado to 911 Ownership Reply with quote

Y2K wrote:

My old Ice Grey Violet:


They're all coming out of the woodwork! Corrado Forum reunion bye
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve owned a couple of VR6’s. Would love to have one tucked away.

My old Storm from a good few years ago.
 



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of interest - I don't often see the gen 1 engine vs the gen 2 engine discussed.
For those that have driven both I would be interested in views - they are quite different I think (gen 2 being DFI).
I have a gen 1 3.6 with a hartech rebuild and the engine is an absolute peach - above 5,000 revs it is absolutely brilliant. Somewhere about 6,000 revs it gets a second wind as it 'comes on cam' - very infectious... thumbsup

Is the gen 2 the same...??
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob_p wrote:
Out of interest - I don't often see the gen 1 engine vs the gen 2 engine discussed.
For those that have driven both I would be interested in views - they are quite different I think (gen 2 being DFI).
I have a gen 1 3.6 with a hartech rebuild and the engine is an absolute peach - above 5,000 revs it is absolutely brilliant. Somewhere about 6,000 revs it gets a second wind as it 'comes on cam' - very infectious... thumbsup

Is the gen 2 the same...??


That's a good point, the only comparisons you normally hear about are about reliability rather than actual performance characteristics.

JayEmm on YT (lives near me) did a good comparison not long ago, 996 C4S vs 997.2 C2, worth a watch if you haven't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHITAXR8Tu4
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another ex-rado owner here. ‘94 VR6 in dragon green.

Great car, lovely wooffly V6.

0-60 in 6.4 was amazing back then.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had two VR6s!

'94 Aqua blue on Speedlines

'93 Schwartz Black on Solitudes

OP please don't sell the Corrado.

911s rust too, just get the best 3.4 996 you can find and keep the 'rado.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arthouse wrote:
resigner wrote:

Now, the clever money says Gen 1's will be sought after more than a Gen 2, and they are more raw, more connected if you know what I mean than a Gen 2.


I'm not sure i agree with that, maybe i'm biased as i went for the Gen 2, but my thoughts were that the Gen 2 will be more sought after as they're known for being more reliable, and still have the raw analogue feeling to drive, especially a manual. It's a completely different drive to a newer car like my Golf R even though on paper, there's not much in it in terms of numbers. Also there's not as many Gen 2's out there. That's not a dig at Gen 1's btw, i really like them (friend has one, which is for sale btw) so they're still a good prospect Thumb

I'd also say, buy on condition AND spec. Choose the options you really want/can't live without on the car (PASM/Chrono/PSE/Seats etc) to narrow your search down a bit.

My friends car is here, a Gen 1, Manual, Atlas Grey, not many options on it but some people might prefer that i guess. He's spent a lot on it over the last year or so. Could get it for less than advertised i'd say, he's got his eye on a M240i at the mo.
https://www.aspirecarsipswichltd.co.uk/searchstock/


Remove the engine from the equation, which is what the thread was about the other day, and the Gen 1 was said to be a purer more entertaining driving experience. That was the in a thread I can't remember, but I haven't driven a gen 2, so dont know. What I do know is a gen 1 is an awesome car, so get one, do a Hartech rebuild when and if you need to and not before, and a great car which will be an appreciating classic you have.....
 
  
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