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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:36 am    Post subject: Porsche Rear lettering - are they losing the plot? Reply with quote

I can’t help thinking that ever since I saw the 991 Carrera 4 Targa GTS rear lettering that all the latest cars are way over identified ......

Apart from the difficult task it is to read it in the passing , my OCD brings me out in a cold sweat thinking how hard it must be to wash the rear without bending or ripping off a letter in the line up!
Let alone post out the bits of lambs wool left behind after a careful caressing , sorry I meant washing !
It’s not only the above example though ...it’s almost all of the models ...

The latest script on the 992 just tops it all ...just look at the script in the page header on here for the 911 Carrera S .....

I am really in the frame of mind that ‘less is more’ in this respect , although I’m not entirely a fan of no rear lettering , surely we don’t need this across the rear of the best rump of any sports car ...?

Or is there a better solution out there ..?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 997.2 C4S only has 911 marked on the back, it doesn't need any more letters.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As below enough said Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that’s more like it .......
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be worse. you could get this back from the OPC. Floor you have to wonder how they hell they would get on with 991 Carrera 4 Targa GTS:floor: Floor
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noticed this when I was at the factory and they were churning out the 991's my first comment to friends was anyone who knows cars or even people who don't recognise a 911.
As said less is more !
sack whoever is responsible for this bollocks, way over the top and looks tat IMO. Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could be worse. you could get this back from the OPC. Floor you have to wonder how they hell they would get on with 991 Carrera 4 Targa GTS:floor: Floor


Classic !! Floor Floor
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everyone thinks this way: on one of the Faceballs 997 groups (why do I bother?) I was called "silly and stupid" for debadging my rear end, and "for compromising the design language of the car", or some such utter bollocks.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not everyone thinks this way: on one of the Faceballs 997 groups (why do I bother?) I was called "silly and stupid" for debadging my rear end, and "for compromising the design language of the car", or some such utter bollocks.

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Floor Floor Max sounds like you had a run in with some sandal and sock wearing Porsche club of Finland members Grin Grin if Porsche put the words "Driver is a Twat" on the car they would want to keep it original Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that the reason for this new trend (note also "ASTON MARTIN" and "JAGUAR" etc. on the rears of those cars) is China and markets where the marques are not that established and whose target customer is aspirational classes who want to be seen driving a "PORSCHE" or "ASTON MARTIN".

It seems to make sense as there is no other common sense reason for it. The stylists must be tearing their hair out as I believe they HATE registration plates, model inscriptions etc.

In a mature market like the UK, it looks plain daft per previous comments. Another case of the manufacturers dictating trends. If every customer in the UK said remove the badges except the PORSCHE one, they may get the message but, frankly, in today's world of "I'll have it for a couple of years before the next one", no-one seems to care.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is1 wrote:
I understand that the reason for this new trend (note also "ASTON MARTIN" and "JAGUAR" etc. on the rears of those cars) is China and markets where the marques are not that established and whose target customer is aspirational classes who want to be seen driving a "PORSCHE" or "ASTON MARTIN".

It seems to make sense as there is no other common sense reason for it. The stylists must be tearing their hair out as I believe they HATE registration plates, model inscriptions etc.

In a mature market like the UK, it looks plain daft per previous comments. Another case of the manufacturers dictating trends. If every customer in the UK said remove the badges except the PORSCHE one, they may get the message but, frankly, in today's world of "I'll have it for a couple of years before the next one", no-one seems to care.


I saw that too somewhere about the Chinese market.
If Porsche were really serious about brand badging in China they could be more direct;


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw that too somewhere about the Chinese market.
If Porsche were really serious about brand badging in China they could be more direct;


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Unfortunately, that wouldn't achieve the purpose. They want European brands, with no links to China. If you badged them in Chinese, it misses the point.
Although I'm sure your point was probably tongue in cheek.
 
  
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pzero wrote:

I saw that too somewhere about the Chinese market.
If Porsche were really serious about brand badging in China they could be more direct;


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Unfortunately, that wouldn't achieve the purpose. They want European brands, with no links to China. If you badged them in Chinese, it misses the point.
Although I'm sure your point was probably tongue in cheek.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on the subject, the one that makes me cringe is Jaguar (in lettering) with the "bird poo" leaping cat on the rear of new Jags. It actually looks cheap.

Surely it should be the roundel on the front and rear? That would be symmetrical too for those that way affected.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is1 wrote:
While we're on the subject, the one that makes me cringe is Jaguar (in lettering) with the "bird poo" leaping cat on the rear of new Jags. It actually looks cheap.

Surely it should be the roundel on the front and rear? That would be symmetrical too for those that way affected.


Scratch 'n Sniff did a whole 'episode' about the leaper and the growler on the Jag. They're pretty funny.

I like the leaper personally. I don't care that it's not symmetrical. At least it looks like it's made of metal unlike the plastic badges on my 997 which were removed soon after the first washin experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
MaxA wrote:
Not everyone thinks this way: on one of the Faceballs 997 groups (why do I bother?) I was called "silly and stupid" for debadging my rear end, and "for compromising the design language of the car", or some such utter bollocks.

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Floor Floor Max sounds like you had a run in with some sandal and sock wearing Porsche club of Finland members Grin Grin if Porsche put the words "Driver is a Twat" on the car they would want to keep it original Thumb


Phil, it wasn't a PCF sock n' sandal wearer, it was some cockwomble bearded hipster ****wit type (can I write that on the forum?) on a faceknob page. You might know the one, it's had an issue with people posting Rolexes (not actually 997 related) and also posting handguns (also not related to the ownership and running of a 997...). I dropped out after that thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Phil 997 wrote:
MaxA wrote:
Not everyone thinks this way: on one of the Faceballs 997 groups (why do I bother?) I was called "silly and stupid" for debadging my rear end, and "for compromising the design language of the car", or some such utter bollocks.

PC



Floor Floor Max sounds like you had a run in with some sandal and sock wearing Porsche club of Finland members Grin Grin if Porsche put the words "Driver is a Twat" on the car they would want to keep it original Thumb


Phil, it wasn't a PCF sock n' sandal wearer, it was some cockwomble bearded hipster ****wit type (can I write that on the forum?) on a faceknob page. You might know the one, it's had an issue with people posting Rolexes (not actually 997 related) and also posting handguns (also not related to the ownership and running of a 997...). I dropped out after that thread.


Floor Floor Floor Max, that did make me laugh and yes I know the very facebook group you refer to and still myself trying to suss out the obsession with posting pics of your dam watch must be the same type that post on face book a pic of what they are eating every day ,I mean really who gives a flying F.
I only remember Uncle Bulgaria from the wombles, I dont remember the one you refer to Grin Grin I have found the cupholders on my car but cant find the handgun holster , maybe it was a tequipment extra for the US and Russian markets and fits under the big silly hat hook thats also applicable to those markets. Floor Grin Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offence to the actual Wombles (national treasure).

The Americans I know who feel the need to actually carry a gun in the car usually duct tape it to the underside of the steering column. They don't feel the need to wave it around like some surrogate willy and post pictures of themselves on the internet. Cop

Apologies to the OP for taking this off topic. Normal service will be resumed shortly.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might I suggest you get off Facewhatever. you're too old or too young.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaxA wrote:
is1 wrote:
While we're on the subject, the one that makes me cringe is Jaguar (in lettering) with the "bird poo" leaping cat on the rear of new Jags. It actually looks cheap.

Surely it should be the roundel on the front and rear? That would be symmetrical too for those that way affected.


Scratch 'n Sniff did a whole 'episode' about the leaper and the growler on the Jag. They're pretty funny.

I like the leaper personally. I don't care that it's not symmetrical. At least it looks like it's made of metal unlike the plastic badges on my 997 which were removed soon after the first washin experience.


I always thought ‘The Growler’ was a euphemism for a totally different thing .......!
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