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cableguy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HPNer wrote:
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tyinsky wrote:
...and get Zingari's colon stick inside the bits along the door sills







Grin


I do believe that the mythical exploratory tool is termed a Colini Stick . . .
Bandit


And has for some time needed calibrating... Grin

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NMC100
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all.bye There was a little speculation recently about the manual C2 that sold at auction, So I thought I’d introduce myself as the guy who bought that car. I’ve been a Porsche owner for a few years, dipping in to the forums sporadically. I think this is my first post but I wouldn’t consider myself a ‘newbie’ to the cars or the Marque.

Firstly apologies to Croydon for pipping you in the auction. Secondly I can give you an appraisal of the car having had it for a month now. I visited the car before the auction completed so I knew most of what I was getting in to before committing. So far my assessment of the car has proven accurate with some pleasant surprises. So the GBU...

Good - the history file is incredible. Running to over 100 pages of invoices, MOTs etc presented in chronological order, I’ve been able to look back at the car’s life and have made contact with the 3 previous owners. The first, artist Ashley Jackson ran the car from new for 6 years. The second owner for 17 years - servicing the car with Strasse for 13 and Kenny Dunn latterly, of those all were in a 3 day window annually. The third owner had all work done within the Porsche Classic scheme. 600 miles ago the Engine was removed and subjected to a full rebuild by Porsche running to 12k. Plus historically all replacement parts are documented as original Porsche equipment.

The Bad.... body corrosion. The car was repaired and had a full body respray in 2013. I work in automotive design so quality and correctness is important as such I would grade the quality of the work 5/10. The usual troublesome areas have been ‘dealt’ with but without going back to bare metal, how they were dealt with remains an unknown. To be on the safe side I’ll be commissioning restorative works to APillar bases, CPillar rear screen surround and sills. Greg Howell has quoted 5-6k for this including addressing the visible corrosion on NSF Fender and NSR Quarter. I’ll also be returning the car to factory spec - removing the TechArt splitters and aero wing added by the first owner.

On first appraisal I was fully expecting a complete suspension refresh too but a day at CG with Chris pleasantly confirmed despite being on original Boge dampers and springs they all still perform at a damping coefficient of 0.3. New control arms and wishbones ( all Porsche) were fitted last year. So apart from two bushes, two top mounts and Geo the suspension is ok- for now. Next year will see new springs and dampers, ARB and drop links.

And the Ugly- well not much really. Front Lamps have already been replaced over Christmas by myself.

So what I have got in a slightly risk punt at auction? Based on today’s knowledge, a 3 previous owner car with complete history in a classic colourway, in decent general condition. The known known aren’t scary and are less than budgeted for. It’s not a garage queen, but I’m a car fan not a gallery curator. As such the value of this car is meaningless as it’s a childhood dream realised since I watched the film Le Mans with my old man and pestered the life out of him to tell me all about that air cooled Slate Grey thing of beauty in the opening scenes.

A long appraisal by way of introduction but hopefully I’ll see some of you in a non virtual world. I’m a GRRC member and based in the Cotswolds if that’s close or relevant.

Nick
 
  
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tyinsky
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really nice to get some insight 👍
Congratulations with the car, great to hear it is in good shape mechanically. Hopefully it will deliver a lot of happy times.
 
  
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NMC100
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tyinsky - looking forward to some good days once the weather improves Cool
 
  
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HSC911
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Nick

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Luddite
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NMC100, many thanks for the detailed heads up on your recent acquisition and congrats on securing a car of your childhood dreams. Seems to me the 993 has found an ideal new owner. I look forward to occasional updates on your progress... Thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi NMC

Thank you for posting the review of your 993

Looks like a great Porsche

Have fun and enjoy

Ash
 
  
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Zingari
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NMC100 wrote:
It’s not a garage queen, but I’m a car fan not a gallery curator.


Well done but be careful chum, the more you put into it to reach Illuminati membership standard the more likely you'll be wearing the tweed patched jacket, cords and desert wellies as you guide people around the exhibit what
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Croydon
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NMC, thanks for the follow up on the car. Gladtheres not going to be be too much work and expense to get her mint.

Ian
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats Nick,
Its nice when you take a punt, roll the dice and come up snake eyes, albeit a well educated and inform punt. Sounds like another one saved

More pics!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
NMC100 wrote:
It’s not a garage queen, but I’m a car fan not a gallery curator.


Well done but be careful chum, the more you put into it to reach Illuminati membership standard the more likely you'll be wearing the tweed patched jacket, cords and desert wellies as you guide people around the exhibit what



I’m quite partial to a bit of tweed. Maybe I’m
on the slippery slope without realising?! Surprised
 
  
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NMC100
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
Congrats Nick,
Its nice when you take a punt, roll the dice and come up snake eyes, albeit a well educated and inform punt. Sounds like another one saved

More pics!!!



Thanks! Indeed there’s a certain sense of obligation to keep the old girl well looked after.
 
  
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Tobesetc
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NMC100 wrote:
...On first appraisal I was fully expecting a complete suspension refresh too but a day at CG with Chris pleasantly confirmed despite being on original Boge dampers and springs they all still perform at a damping coefficient of 0.3. New control arms and wishbones ( all Porsche) were fitted last year. So apart from two bushes, two top mounts and Geo the suspension is ok- for now


That matches my experience with Chris at CG - my Boge dampers also working fine after 24 years... "they don't make 'em like they used to!". Utterly transformed my car, guess yours also feeling great now.
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