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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:11 pm    Post subject: Looking to sell Reply with quote

Evening

Thinking of putting my 2002 C4s black/black manual up for sale, with 73100 miles.
Bought from a Porsche specialist ive owned the car for about 18 months.
4 Previous owners
19 service stamps Porsche & specialist last serviced 26/07/18 along with new air con condensers & regased along with a few other bits total cost £1700.
Brake fluid change at 64615 miles in june 2016
The car has MOT until 08/2019
Tyres are in fantastic condition
Two Keys

Valuation report date 23/07/2018

I can confirm that we have assessed the above vehicle and taken into account, the current millage, excellent condition and service history and value the vehicle between £ and £ for insurance purposes.

The car really is in great condition inside & out along with low miles & owners. The car has been garaged for the last 18 months and I keep it looking pretty at all times

The reason im thinking of selling the car is that ive only covered 2kmiles in the time ive owned it and it seems a shame to just keep it sitting in the garage a car this clean needs to be on the roads.

Ive just bought new front coffin arms & tuning forks from design 911 which will go with the car.

Im happy to supply any further details if someone is serious.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to suggest a price.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Opps

Yes that may help when offering a car for sale

£24500.00 Im based just off junction 2 M25 kent area

As I mentioned any serious enquires I can supply more info

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GLWS but maybe a bit pricey for a private sale though this time of year.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply

Im in no rush to sell just thought I would plant the seed & go with the flow.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GLWS - just curious, how does a 16/17 year old car have 19 service stamps?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because that's how many service stamps are in the two service books, the specialist I bought from serviced it before I picked it up ( july 17 ) then I had my indy change & check the oil & filter & service, then it had its present service in july 18 so that's 3 stamps in 18 months. paper work to prove my friend.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time of year shouldn't matter too much Dont know

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...ok I will say it; fantasy value for a car with no engine work completed...
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDCC4S wrote:
Opps

Yes that may help when offering a car for sale

£24500.00 Im based just off junction 2 M25 kent area

As I mentioned any serious enquires I can supply more info

PDCC4S


Clearly a joke.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'll be a little more diplomatic and suggest that £24,500 is very optimistic. To be fair, you've said you're just raising your finger in the air, so to speak.
I think the time of year, Christmas around the corner, is against you but more importantly the market is very slow at present.
I'm afraid a more realistic price starts with a "1" but good luck with the sale.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think £14,500 is a lot more realistic.

And also no point trying to find a buyer on here, as 99% of us already have one - need to list on autotrader, and if really serious about selling, start at £18,000, and knock it down every few days, until someone actually calls you, and then knock it down even more until someone serious comes to look and buy.

The market for old Porsches (more so private sales) is very small, and difficult to move on. No matter how amazing I think my 14 year old car is, no one will buy it unless for a rock bottom price!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thread moved from the '996' to the 'Porsche Cars For Sale' sub-forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not true, im here looking (and reading and learning obviously), and im in the market, but a car of that age regardless of miles does not start with a 2 - thats 997 territory all just IMHO.

Gen 1 and Gen 2 C2 and C4 Manual cars, excluding Targa and C4s:
from what ive looked at/test driven over the last couple of months:
up to £10k - dog rough cars with no history or Cat C/D etc
£10k to £14k - nice usable cars with good history, but no evidence of IMS/RMS/Clutch change
£15k to £18k Nice well prepped cars with outstanding history and recent clutch/IMS/RMS (so peace of mind for the next owner)} often in dealers with 3-12 months warranty

Anything over £18k is under 50k miles with condition and history to match

Good luck with the sale, id be interested to hear more about the car if you think you can get to a price int he ballpark of what ive outlined above Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GLWTS

Personally I think the value is somewhere in the middle of the £15k-£25k range discussed.

The market is very slow at the moment but good cars at the right price are still moving. Waiting until Spring might be the best idea.

As you've only had the car for 18 months the retail value won't have changed much so for a private sale I'd suggest starting at the price you paid less 10% and to seriously consider offers at 5% below that.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with the sale OP.

I must have missed the sentence in your post when you asked for people's opinion on the value.

Were it me, I would fit the coffin arms, tuning forks and get the geo done so it drives spot on and the buyer knows its sorted.

If convenient it may be worth seeing if the dealer wants to buy it back for stock... the posts on this thread give you an idea of the 'joys' of dealing with private buyers!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:


I must have missed the sentence in your post when you asked for people's opinion on the value.



This was probably caused by his first post in the thread mentioning the phrase "Thinking of putting my [car] up for sale" and not mentioning a price - especially as it was also posted on the 996 sub-forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replys on my topic of selling along with the mixed opinions, however I only based my value on the car from the valuation after inspection. There seems to be mixed feelings about engine works IMS RMS etc but a good mechanic will say if it aint broke don't fix it, ive spent money on the car & will continue to do so while in my company.

Again I was testing the water but look forward to reading any posts.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDCC4S wrote:
Thanks for all the replys on my topic of selling along with the mixed opinions, however I only based my value on the car from the valuation after inspection. There seems to be mixed feelings about engine works IMS RMS etc but a good mechanic will say if it aint broke don't fix it, ive spent money on the car & will continue to do so while in my company.

Again I was testing the water but look forward to reading any posts.


Out of interest what did the valuations give as the price to insure it at?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toddy2 wrote:
GLWS but maybe a bit pricey for a private sale though this time of year.


Yep too much dough.

I know someone who wants one but they'll pay less than £15k for one
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