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MaxA
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no Porsche, it's my 2006 MINI Cooper S. I used to run Bilstein B14s but they are very firm for the day-to-day (especially in the city) so I swapped them out for Öhlins DFV R&Ts (the adjustability is really desirable for winter/summer/trackdays). It's currently pretty close to the stock ride height for winter.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah fair enough, im running MeisterR Gt1's on my scooby which i can raise but a good few inches if i want to (currently sits an inch tween the tyre and arch).

I wonder how the handling would be affected in a Pork by raising it up?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingston wrote:
Ah fair enough, im running MeisterR Gt1's on my scooby which i can raise but a good few inches if i want to (currently sits an inch tween the tyre and arch).

I wonder how the handling would be affected in a Pork by raising it up?


if you raise the centre of gravity it'll roll more but if you run a Scooby you'll know that a bit of compliance can really help on the road (I still miss my old WRX). There's far less space for height adjustment on my MINI, which either rolls only a little or doesn't roll much at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You`ll need a new bumper Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a plan
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Autokennel made a Martini tribute for one of their clients about 10 years ago that looked nice: https://bringatrailer.com/2008/10/21/1983-porsche-911sc-martini-safari-rally-tribute-2/


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friend of mine did a shoot for a posh car dealer the other day:

http://www.taylorandcrawley.com/current-stock/Race-Cars/1973-PORSCHE-911RSR-28L-9113600727
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just reading about a Leh Keen Safari 911 on Road & Track and then on Petrolicious. Link below.

It's all over the internet, and makes a lot of sense: for me driving in the city can be pretty tough with all the cobblestones, manhole covers, tram lines, pot holes, road works, steel slabs, not to mention the slush, snow and ice that accumulates by the end of the winter. Dont know

https://petrolicious.com/articles/running-into-a-safari-911-built-by-leh-keen-is-the-absolute-best
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaxA wrote:
kingston wrote:
Ah fair enough, im running MeisterR Gt1's on my scooby which i can raise but a good few inches if i want to (currently sits an inch tween the tyre and arch).

I wonder how the handling would be affected in a Pork by raising it up?


if you raise the centre of gravity it'll roll more but if you run a Scooby you'll know that a bit of compliance can really help on the road (I still miss my old WRX). There's far less space for height adjustment on my MINI, which either rolls only a little or doesn't roll much at all.


Are the Ohlins not adjustable in height or have i misread it?

Sorry, should have said my scooby is a FSTI. I need to get camber bolts for it before i can jack it up to a height i want.

I think ill have to look around rennlist and see if someone else has done it already.

As for the one above with the rallye raid bumper, i wont wonder where the rads went
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Creating a Rallye car replica Reply with quote

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So i keep seeing 964's(?) being jacked up for the Rallye/Paris Dakar look and im liking it alot.

However, to purchase one of these cars (one is going to the Autosport Auction in Jan), then you need to part with 60-70k.

So as im not interested in doing that, im wondering what components youd need to do it?

IM quite tempted to do this as recently ive been driving down undulating roads.


Not sure I’m clear on what you’re asking, you want to turn your 996 GT3 into a 911 Safari?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but it's not possible by the looks of it due to wheels/tyres/brakes.

But possible to jack it up slightly for abit more clearance
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit I like the idea, anything that makes the car more usable on a daily basis can only be a good thing. What’s the max clearance on the standard suspension and with changing the geo to a set up with less camber? I’d imagine the latter would be good for an inch or so of lift alone. The affect of all this on the handling would be less than good I’d imagine though Question
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roro wrote:
Must admit I like the idea, anything that makes the car more usable on a daily basis can only be a good thing. What’s the max clearance on the standard suspension and with changing the geo to a set up with less camber? I’d imagine the latter would be good for an inch or so of lift alone. The affect of all this on the handling would be less than good I’d imagine though Question


Didnt think GT3 suspension could be raised? Thought it was a fixed height strut with after market ones being height adjustable?

Regarding camber for me, it wouldnt make much difference, rolling the arches would as im running a size 'up' in tyres and so the tyre is closer to the arch now.

Been out in it the past few weekends, last weekend it 'bottomed out' on a dip i didnt notice and been down some lanes which have been undulating. Even a road i knew well now has a sunken section pre to mid corner entry and a wicked dip just post exit

As for the handling, i guess it depends really, i dont have the ability to drive the car at its limits (never will tbh) though i wouldnt have thought it would make it lairy/tail happy at every corner?!

I found a Brit on Rennlist who has done this already and suggested i speak to his friend (who is selling his on ebay), so will message them. Though the car for sale is running Pro-Flex suspension.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those still interested, found a thread on rennlist about Chris Harris's 997 with Exe-TC and someone else pipped up about them being installed on 'their' rally cars, complete with the car being airbourne etc.

Looks like that the cars get raised by 10-25mm only so dont think a 'safari' 996 is possible
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That green one looks awful imo. The 996 just doesn't look right raised, unlike the G chassis cars.

If you insist: you could raise the suspension easy.

This is a freelander 40mm lift kit:


http://www.alservices.co.uk/freelander-lift-kit/

Its what you fit to go offroad in a freelander, they just bolt to the struts above the top mounts.

You could easily make something similar for a 996. Hell, the freelander ones might fit!

Then you would just need to work out suspension arm length to keep camber and toe correct.

If you have GT3 lower arms you could knock up some spacers for them.

Longer adjustable rear toe arms are easy to make (see other threads on here from people making them to lower cars).


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Why not just swap your GT3 for a non m030 carrera? Or a macan?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh you might need longer driveshafts depending on the lift. And it might chew cv joints if the angle is acute.

I think this is fairly unchartered territory.

I think you should do it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see why it would be a big deal to drop the subframes to keep suspension geometry sensible and fit a spacer above the top mounts. Rear engine mounts would be the most obvious awkward thing, but if the entire engine and subframes could be dropped it would make it easier than just going for crazy suspension angles. This wouldn't help with ground clearance under the engine though. Front is easier to just drop subframe and add spacers.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at Google image search there is no shortage of 996 rally cars, but they all seem to be at roughly standard suspension height.



Which are cool, but too similar to the road going version (bar all the stickers) for it to make sense to me.

I'd aim for a 996 Safari Rally, which would need a significant lift.

To do it right is going to mean making your own suspension components and driveshafts I suspect.
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