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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:16 pm    Post subject: Meet Miss Piggy Reply with quote

I'm not quite sure how this happened, but I ended up looking at (and very much liking the idea of) Cayenne's about 3 weeks ago.

To cut a long story short after only a few days of looking I've ended up buying a 955 turbo to add to the fleet. I poured over almost every 955/957/958 on the market, torturing my friends with endless adverts to look at before finally settling on this one. I'll be honest I wasn't a fan of the looks of the 1st gen Cayenne, but when you get up close to them in the metal they actually don't look half bad. The interior is still relatively contemporary, very well appointed and almost S-class quiet. The off-roading ability of the 955/7 is (dare I say it) as good as the Range Rover but the handling and dynamics is incredible for its size and in a league of its own.

I'm the 3rd owner, FSH, 90k miles, has had the plastic coolant pipes replaced with the aluminium ones, and is an unusual colour - Opalescent Green. It looks black to me but what do I know? Its an 06 car which is handy as it is the run out of the 955 and so seems to have every extra thrown at it.

I've not had chance to clean her up due to it raining in Manchester today and then having to drive it home where I did my first fix (more later).

I've struggled for a name for this car but in USA they call their Cayenne's 'Pigs', so..... here is Miss Piggy:





First impressions are superb. Its been reasonably well maintained up til now but the steering is very sharp, the engine is sweet and powerful as you would expect at 450bhp. What surprised me the most was that the seats are more comfortable than the Range Rover, something I didn't think could be possible!

One glaring omission from the history is the replacement of the prop-shaft (or 'carden shaft'). This is a well known failure on these cars. A new prop is about £6-700 plus fitting. They have a support bearing about half way down its length to keep it level and stop it sagging/swinging about when it rotates. This bearing is supported by a bracket attached by 2mm thick rubber ring. The ring disintegrates by about 60k miles and you get what sounds like a midget banging under the car with a hammer each time you accelerate! The following fix cost me about £5.

This one was fine when I picked it up, it lasted the 100 miles home, but one 0-60 flat out pull was all it took for the banging to start. It must have been on its last legs. Its essentially underivable when this happens, you can't help but notice it.

So, sooner than planned I set about doing my first fix. I take no credit for this, it was devised by someone on Rennlist and is called the 'Jimi' fix:

Put the car into terrain height - gives you loads of room underneath without needing jacks.

Remove the mounting plate holding the support bearing up:


Here you can see the rubber has disintegrated and the prop is no longer connected to the support:


Then, using a Dremel, sand off the remainder of the rubber, this is part way through, you need to get it back to flush:


Then get some rubber heater hose, cut 8 x 2cm lengths of it off and daisy chain the 8 bits together:


Put the new 'support' around what's left of the bearing, force the circular support over the top:

Then I zip tied a few of the rubber hoses to the outer circular bracket to stop them moving. Finally put the retaining plate back on and you've done.

This took about 1 hour. I've driven it hard since with no more banging, no noise and no issues. There are apparently lots of cars with tens of thousands of miles on this fix in USA.

I've got quite a few more little jobs to do but I want to actually clean it next.

I've also noticed a slight oil leak from the front nearside. It looks like its coming from around the bottom of the passenger intercooler hose. Anyone know what the common oil leaks are around that area?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant I love the Jimi fix👍🏻, if you’d used black cable ties it would be less noticeable, that’s OCD for you. Was going look at Cayenne but it sold so ended up with RR SC instead.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love it! Thumb

I'm a big fan of the early Cayenne
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just need a Cayman and a Panamera now Grin

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome

that is an impressive fix Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant, another Cayenne thread!

Love the fix, I would have never been able to come up with that.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers chaps.

Tonights little investigation was into the (standard on all used Cayenne's) non-functioning parking sensors. Both front/rear aren't working.

Plugged the reader in and each and every sensor showed a fault. There was also a 'park assist power fault' present. I cleared the codes, put it into reverse and it still doesn't work. This time the only fault left is the 'power' fault.

I'm suspecting a dodgy connection somewhere shorting the whole thing out.

Anyone got any pointers of where to look or where to start?? Question
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone got any pointers of where to look or where to start?? Question


Yes, DEMORT Mechanic



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
ragpicker wrote:
Anyone got any pointers of where to look or where to start?? Question


Yes, DEMORT Mechanic



Grin


Grin Grin Iain's favorite Porsche Thumb Thumb Thumb

funny but I have been looking at Cayennes today as my GF fancies one maybe an 06 to 10 car Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a watch of my review before going for the >07 model Phil:


Open Youtube Page

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me....

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks in fine fettle for its age. Thumb

Is the OS front ditch finder mounted right as it looks like the directional arrows are going backwards???

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right, I think the front wheels are on the wrong way around Rolling Eyes

Those tyres will be in the bin by Monday anyway!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You're right, I think the front wheels are on the wrong way around Rolling Eyes


Grin 450 horses will certainly need stickier rubber...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have a watch of my review before going for the >07 model Phil:


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Raggy could you PM me what you paid for it and what I should be looking to pay for a decent 06/07 car . thanks mate Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
Cheers chaps.

Tonights little investigation was into the (standard on all used Cayenne's) non-functioning parking sensors. Both front/rear aren't working.

Plugged the reader in and each and every sensor showed a fault. There was also a 'park assist power fault' present. I cleared the codes, put it into reverse and it still doesn't work. This time the only fault left is the 'power' fault.

I'm suspecting a dodgy connection somewhere shorting the whole thing out.

Anyone got any pointers of where to look or where to start?? Question


mate, did you read my thread where we had the same issues on our parking sensors ? The fronts were fine as it was disconnected at the loom end but the rears had split wires and 3 out of the 6 were broken . In the end we got some spares from germany
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work with the 'Jimi Fix' and thanks for sharing.

There are some very good DIY fixes over on the Rennlist Forum, which even if you have no intention of doing them yourself anymore (like me) make great reading!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An excellent choice young man Thumb

Olive green is what we call that colour .. it almost changes colour depending on the light .. i love it .. that or Basault Black .

A few things for your to do list Very Happy

Oil leak .. remove the hose from the bottom of the oil cooler and drain out the oil thats in there .. there may well be quite a bit.

It comes from the Turbo and tends to collect there.

Propshaft .. thats dam clever .. if it lasts then excellent .. if not the cost of propshafts has fallen such that a replacement center bearing is no longer cost effective .. well for garages anyways .

Get the oil and filter changed for the Tip box !!

The front arch liners at the back of the arch .. easiest with front wheels off but can be done in situe .. sooo .. the rear side of the shock and either with a mirror or a screwdriver then see if the original drain bungs are there... you peer behind the arch liner basically.

These are the same as 996/997 next to the battery.

If they are there then flick them out with a screwdriver .. i would expect by now though someone like me has already done it .

Causes no end of issues with water leaks if left in place .

There are also some bungs in the sills both sides .. remove these to make sure theres no water build up then refit .. it gives a sloshing noise if so .

Talking of which (water ).. do this for both drivers and pasenger sides .. i need you to look / feel under the front carpets .. we need to make sure its dry .. big problems if not... remove the side trims to get the carpet up .. pictures in my link.

See here .. http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=126518

Also make sure your rear washer jet is working .. and best if you never use it in winter .. theres a connection behind the A pillar o/s/f which can come appart (washer pipe ) and water will go straight into a Control unit .. expensive .

Theres also another connection above the rear interior light that can come disconnected .. water will drip out of that panel if so .

Get a fault code read out of dme and tip please .. let me know any codes .


Parking sensors .. usual problem is either a single sensor or the main plug that connectes the bumper wiring to the car .. for the rear then its on the n/s/r and behind the liner / pu .. you can just about get at it from under the car.

Front and i forget which side but i think its o/s/f and again behind the liner.

Basically unplug and see what condition the pins are.

Id have a good look at the fuses as well .. x2 boards and at each end of the dash.

There are more by the battery..

Aghhh .. a tip .. if you want to get at the battery .. pull the x2 plastic panels out each side of the n/s/f seat at the front.. undo the spline bolts , remove the rear plastic panels over the seat runners and the seat will tilt backwards .

I think that will do for now .. give me a shout if theres any .. er .. Info you need on these Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@swisstony - thanks dude, I've seen your thread Thumb

@DeMort - superb post! Muchas Gracias for all that, I'll be getting on it this weekend. No codes on the DME/TCU other than the parking sensor codes. I'll investigate the connectors first and go from there.

Rear washer works but its a dribble rather than a spray
Not looked at the drain bungs yet, will do
Oil leak, do you mean the intercooler or the oil cooler? It looks like its coming from the n/s intercooler hose when I've had a closer look Question

I'll do the rest and report back over the w/e Thumb worship
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