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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet the front end will be as big as a panemera aswell. I don't think I will be trading in the 993 for that.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First impressions were that it looks stunning. Watching the promo vids has put me off though. It sounds as dull as anything...

The 991 was too big for me so the 992 must be the same size as an A8.

I do like the interior though...

Oh, and they've gone back to using the 996 door handles!

I look forward to driving one but imagine it will be as soulless as the 991.2.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
First impressions were that it looks stunning. Watching the promo vids has put me off though. It sounds as dull as anything...

The 991 was too big for me so the 992 must be the same size as an A8.

I do like the interior though...

Oh, and they've gone back to using the 996 door handles!

I look forward to driving one but imagine it will be as soulless as the 991.2.


Yes some solid observations there. Last of the NA (and best sounding water cooled 911) the 992 is only gonna push up 991.1 prices worship
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the car looks amazing especially the rear!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add some more details, the PDK C2S comes in at 1,515kg where as the PDK C4S is at 1,565kg

Overall that's 55 kg up from the 991.2, due to

- 20 KG from the new 8 speed PDK gearbox with space for Hybrid tech
- 12 KG from the enlarged crash structure (bigger body)
- 10 KG from emission technology including particulate filter
- 13 KG the rest, from wheels and other bits across in the car (inside and out)

new PCM

PCM 4.0 has been updated now in line with Panamera, Cayenne and Macan – bringing with it the full Porsche Connect package and other digital benefits outlined in the release.

The rear spoiler

Has been mentioned that this also can act as an air brake but this has yet to be confirmed.

Wet Mode

Wet mode is standard fit, but Sport Chrono allows the driver to engage wet mode via the mode selector on the steering wheel which only comes with that option. Otherwise, it’s engaged by a dashboard switch. The changes brought by wet mode are primarily to the programming of the ABS and stability systems.

Essentially more and earlier computer control, so specific sports chrono if you want to turn it off!

Redesign to the iconic ‘911’ script

Is a design nod to Porsche heritage and signifies the new generation.

New Emissions Standard

991.2 GTS is Euro 6d-TEMP while 992 is Euro 6d-TEMP EVAP (992 has different cooling, turbocharging and injection systems)

UK deliveries

Currently looking like being March 2019 in time for the '19' reg plate

Sports Exhaust Change

The large bore twin tail is the Sports Exhaust taking the style from the 991 GT2RS, which is important as then the standard exhaust is a 4 pipe affair.

Not to nick pick but that reverses the quantum universe of exhausts, where more pipes are better.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
First impressions were that it looks stunning. Watching the promo vids has put me off though. It sounds as dull as anything...

The 991 was too big for me so the 992 must be the same size as an A8.

I do like the interior though...

Oh, and they've gone back to using the 996 door handles!

I look forward to driving one but imagine it will be as soulless as the 991.2.


Luddite. That’s the trouble with the over 40’s. Dull and boring Sleepy Happy

Next thing you’ll be getting all excited about SUV’s Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it - especially the 80's throwback electric razor they put in the centre console...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squelch wrote:
I like it - especially the 80's throwback electric razor they put in the centre console...


Best post of 2018 Floor Floor Floor Floor

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is it really PDK only? There is no option for Manual gearbox on the build website, or will they introduce it later?

I'm tempted to have something new.. but must be manual gearbox.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7 speed manual available next year.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even bigger, even heavier and with some even crazier numbers on the options list (it is no challenge to push the price over £125k). I don't dislike it per-se, but it certainly isn't for me.

I like the way that you can have ceramics without yellow callipers, but the price premium is a true exercise in sarcasm. And how on Earth did the chrono pack get to almost £1650 for a stopwatch, a steering wheel switch and some software?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m a bit in-different to the overall design, it doesn’t make me go “wow” as the 991 did. But it may look much better when seen in real life.

To me the back in particular is too fussy and stylised i.e. the light bar. The sports exhaust ‘exits’ are fake which is pretty inexcusable - the sort of thing you’re used to seeing on diesel rep-mobiles.

I suspect they’ve gone for the odd looking, but smaller PDK selector as the old one obscured quite a few buttons (it does in the manual anyway).

If memory serves me right the 991 was lighter than the equivalent 997 so I guess the 992 is back to 997 weight, especially bearing in mind that all models are wide bodied 4s. I don’t think that’s too bad given the (presumably) improved crash structure and compulsory emmisions paraphanalia/turbo gubbins.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

although it's a headline 4% price increase, there is also and not surprising a a mix of option price increases, not not everything has gone up....

Caveat the following examples, where there are technology changes and general price increases that the 991.2 to 992 comparison isn't per say on a like for like basis, but you get the point

Metallic Paint up from £834 to £876 = +5%
Special Colours up from £1,877 to £1,919 = +2%

Sports seats (14-way electric) with memory package from £1,031 to £1,599 = +55%
Adaptive Sports seats Plus (18-way, electric) with memory package from £1,919 to £2,315 = +20%
LED main headlights with matrix beam including Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS Plus) from £1,772 to £2,054.00 = +16%

Electric slide/tilt glass sunroof unchanged at £1,592.00
Privacy glass unchanged at £ 387.00
Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) unchanged £ 2,273.00
Rear-axle steering unchanged £ 1,592.00

Front axle lift system from £1,599 to £1,709.00 = +7%
Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) from £6,018 to £6,321.00 = +5%
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what does it sound like?

All the clips that showed the car being driven had the car drowned out by the backing music, considering the reaction to the 718 I hope it sounds like a Porsche should despite the blowers.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gottans wrote:
But what does it sound like?

All the clips that showed the car being driven had the car drowned out by the backing music, considering the reaction to the 718 I hope it sounds like a Porsche should despite the blowers.


It’s going to sound like a turbo nooo
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Gottans wrote:
But what does it sound like?

All the clips that showed the car being driven had the car drowned out by the backing music, considering the reaction to the 718 I hope it sounds like a Porsche should despite the blowers.


It’s going to sound like a turbo nooo

Mate I saw a 991.2 GTS thus morning that had plenty of engine noise, with plenty of pops and bangs on over run. The only real difference was that you could hear the turbo's spoolling up. I can't understand why a Turbo can't sound like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
spongebob squarepants wrote:
Gottans wrote:
But what does it sound like?

All the clips that showed the car being driven had the car drowned out by the backing music, considering the reaction to the 718 I hope it sounds like a Porsche should despite the blowers.


It’s going to sound like a turbo nooo

Mate I saw a 991.2 GTS thus morning that had plenty of engine noise, with plenty of pops and bangs on over run. The only real difference was that you could hear the turbo's spoolling up. I can't understand why a Turbo can't sound like that.


Hand Hand Hand totally different sound, sort of ‘tinny’

Edit- I’ll take one though Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a 750mL bottle in the cup holder how does manual shifter works?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With a 750mL bottle in the cup holder how does manual shifter works?


we will have to await till they launch the manual to find out...
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