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rob_p
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:36 pm    Post subject: Rob's Carrera 2 Reply with quote

Evening all,

Following 5 years of 997 ownership i decided that i needed to scratch the itch of something new and after looking for quite a while I found a 991 Carrera 2 which i liked enough to buy.
I wanted a manual and I wanted a sunroof (contentious on here I know) - ideally a glass roof but this car came up with a metal sunroof - but everything else was right so I went for it.
Car was at the lower end of 991 pricing (sub £50k) has a full OPC history, and a few nice options - full electric memory heated seats, sport chrono with sport plus, sports exhaust, power mirrors, Carrera classic 20" wheels, Bose. 40,000 miles which i was happy with. I am the 5th owner but the last owner had for 2.5 years which I also thought was ok.
Bought from a dealer in Manchester that had taken as a trade in so hence I think they were punting it on at a sensible price (quick turnaround etc.)

The car was actually in at OPC Bolton having a few bits done when i first contacted the dealer so I was able to speak to the service manager who talked me through the car - and was very positive about it. He also emailed the rev range report which was very handy - nothing outside of range 1 which was great news.

As others on here have noted, it is interesting to see these cars starting to clash with gen 2 997's in pricing terms. I test drove a gen 2 targa "S" in the summer for the same money as this and i decided against it - i just thought it was expensive for what it was and it didn't feel like enough of a step on from my gen 1 997.

The big upside with this car for me was the fact that it just feels so much more refined - smoother and more comfortable on the UKs terrible roads (I must be feeling my slowly advancing years). The interior feels quite a bit more modern and luxurious to me also - albeit i also think the 997 interior is very good.
My thoughts on the general comments about the 991 being more GT to the 997 sports car feel - probably fair and suits me very nicely!!

Having done quite a bit to my 997 in the last 5 years i am trying to keep this a little simpler on the mods front. I think some red seat belts would be nice and some spacers on the rear wouldn't go a miss. Plus a front PU respray at some stage to bring it right up to scratch!

More to follow no doubt!

photos following now.....
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rob_p
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photos....
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MJA911
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2012 Porsche 991 Carrera

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice indeed, I have a similar car (what colour is yours? mine is platinum silver) and feel the same, refined, modern, more of a GT yes, but you can definitely hustle it and a 911 sports car is in there 🙂

Not planning on a load of mods either, although to get the look I was after, I went with 5mm spacers all round (same Carrera classic wheels as yours, but all black) which worked really well to my eyes, sports tailpipes (no PSE 🙁 ), changed the rear badges to black, and put black “Carerra T” side decals on it.

Pics below shows how the wheels are versus the arches with 5mm spacers.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rob_p
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJA911 wrote:
Very nice indeed, I have a similar car (what colour is yours? mine is platinum silver) and feel the same, refined, modern, more of a GT yes, but you can definitely hustle it and a 911 sports car is in there 🙂

Not planning on a load of mods either, although to get the look I was after, I went with 5mm spacers all round (same Carrera classic wheels as yours, but all black) which worked really well to my eyes, sports tailpipes (no PSE 🙁 ), changed the rear badges to black, and put black “Carerra T” side decals on it.

Pics below shows how the wheels are versus the arches with 5mm spacers.


Thanks. Colour is GT silver - I should have mentioned that!
I was thinking 15mm on the rear and 7mm on the front. I might try it at the weekend and see what they look like. I have them from old wheels on the 997 so no cost.
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MJA911
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

15mm could be a little aggressive! GT Silver, my favourite, had it on an earlier 997, darker than platinum, which in isolation is great, but GT Silver is the real McCoy Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thumbsup Rob,

Lucky it's a manual otherwise I'd be really Envy instead of just a little bit.

Looking forward to hearing more of your 997v991 thoughts.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice; silver / black is my favourite combination, and I really like those wheels. Interesting to see 991 prices creeping towards the top end of 997.2 prices.
Also interesting that you feel the 991 is more "GT" compared to the 997.2 being more "sports car".
 
  
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wildej
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice car Rob looks great in silver.

It's interesting to see the price of 991s very close to gen2 997 money.
Having had my 991 for a couple of months I wouldn't go back to a 997 now they are vastly better car imo.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely car, congrats on the purchase.
The base Carrera is always a fabulous choice. Looks great in GT Silver, with those alloys and black interior.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely car, GT silver being one of my favourite colours.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, lovely looking thing Rob, well done!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great colour GT Silver well done you OP Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rob,

Nice story. It's a lovely looking car especially with black wheels, well done thumbsup

Cheers,
Paul
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rob_p
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments guys.
Spent 3.5 hours cleaning it this morning!
Took all the wheels off and cleaned the residue off from old wheel weights (looked awful and a total pain to remove) then applied some sealent to the inside of the wheels.
I tried the 15mm spacers at the rear but I think they did look a little aggressive so went with some 7mm ones I had instead - these are fine.
I might get some 5mm ones for the fronts although the inset is far less acute than the rears were.
I will post some pics when I get to the PC.

P.S. The black wheels aren't mine, that was another post.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! Sorry Rob, it looks like your car. I should pay more attention Grin

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fault, wasn’t intended to be a thread-bomb, didn’t realise the pics would be so huge either, only posted them to show the effect of 5mm spacers on those wheels Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJA911 wrote:
My fault, wasn’t intended to be a thread-bomb, didn’t realise the pics would be so huge either, only posted them to show the effect of 5mm spacers on those wheels Embarassed


No worries - this is a car forum after all - it's supposed to be about "show and tell" right??
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice looking car(S) in silver ,both of you ....

I think GT S ilver really shows up the beautiful lines of a 911 no matter which iteration .....nearly bought a 997 Turbo in GT a few years ago ( which I should have ..)
In the UK light the curves just bend the light spectacularly .....it’s not the same in other countries !!

Looking good .....great buy .....
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