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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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May just need an Italian tune-up. Drive



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To sort any sticky tappets out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically take it for a damn good thrashing. Cop
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_tuneup
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve never heard the term Italian tune up before. On the subject of fuel additives or injector cleaners, do any of you use them? On my p1 I had a fair bit of work done and the larger injectors I used didn’t seem up to the turbo, so I pulled them out and sent them for cleaning and flow testing. I don’t want to pull them out of the Carrera so I was going to just use an injector cleaner treatment or possibly one of the carbon cleaning crowds that actually plug in.
Any ideas? I have a new fuel filter there to get on yet.
Got out yesterday but it was very sensible as I had the kids with me.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everytime redex is on offer at tesco I bang a full bottle in a full tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve never heard the term Italian tune up before. On the subject of fuel additives or injector cleaners, do any of you use them? On my p1 I had a fair bit of work done and the larger injectors I used didn’t seem up to the turbo, so I pulled them out and sent them for cleaning and flow testing. I don’t want to pull them out of the Carrera so I was going to just use an injector cleaner treatment or possibly one of the carbon cleaning crowds that actually plug in.
Any ideas? I have a new fuel filter there to get on yet.
Got out yesterday but it was very sensible as I had the kids with me.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive no idea why that was posted twice. I’ll probably just run a few bottles through for good measure. If I ever get a chance to drive it Very Happy
So is a good thrashing a cure for the sticky tappet?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So is a good thrashing a cure for the sticky tappet?


Try it.......and if it doesn't work, try it again........and if it doesn't work, try it again.......and if it doesn't work, try it again........and if it doesn't work, try it again.......and if it doesn't work, try it again........and if it doesn't work, try it again Grin
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good Alex. I’m up for that Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a quick look through some dockets and service invoices I have for the car. I have 1 for rear 20mm arb poly bushes. I’m assuming 20mm is standard and not m030. Also a receipt for front and rear seats, steering wheel handbrake and a few other bits. I found out from someone who knows the car from some point said the car had hideous coloured seats so that’s that 1 explained and that’s why I couldn’t find any mention of the carbon fibre bits in the original spec.

Is there any point in up rating to m030 arbs and I’m guessing they’re very hard to get hold of making them expensive. I find the car nice and comfortable. I had planned on a suspension drop and was maybe just going to go down the lowering spring route. I don’t see much point in changing shocks yet if they’re in good order.
Has anyone tried lower springs and then poly bushes without going any further? This is purely a toy and doubtful it will ever see a track
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is lowered -30mm and I have poly bushes fitted in all the coffin arms, ARB's and also a gearbox mount, it is tighter than standard but I find it fine for what I use it for.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds right up my street infrasilver. That’s probably the way I’ll go and worry about shocks as and when I need them. Which springs did you go for?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had H&R springs and had these fitted to my standard shockers but I have since changed them for Bilstein B6 units and the ride is about the same, my old shockers we still fine even after over 100k miles.
I also had to design/make some Cup rear toe arms to allow the correct alignment as the car is so low, lower than a GT3 in fact.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmm hadn’t really thought about wheel alignment. Not really sure who I could get to do that over here.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NedHan79 wrote:
Yeah it seems to be common enough. I’ve timed it on the last few cold starts and it’s generally 30-40 seconds. I’ve read that a good engine flush or additive before an oil change should cure it. Problem with that is it’s had an oil change not long before I bought it. I’ll not worry too much about it. If it was permanent, it’d be a different matter. The cars only got 74k on it and a very good history to back it up. I know mileage isn’t the be all and end all but it’s a bit more reassuring than if it was a high miler.


A few tappets rattling for a minute or so when stone cold is as my 74k mile C2 behaves - the cam chains rattle for 1/4 of a second or so when the car has been left for more than a day or two, too - and they're a known ***** design.

If you start the engine after it's been warmed, there's no tappet or chain chatter at all, these early engines have a lot of chains to tension up and a lot of oil galleries to fill so it's not unexpected they make a bit of a noise when firing up..
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That’s good to know carfixer. If the cars been anywhere near warm, like when I get it out of the garage and let it idle for a minute or 2, there’s no rattle. It’s just a shame as I’ve a full exhaust on and it sounds great as it barks into life, especially in a small garage
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NedHan79 wrote:
That’s good to know carfixer. If the cars been anywhere near warm, like when I get it out of the garage and let it idle for a minute or 2, there’s no rattle. It’s just a shame as I’ve a full exhaust on and it sounds great as it barks into life, especially in a small garage


I know what you mean. I had a '99 Boxster (2.7) that was pretty much silent from the tappets, apart from a little chain rustle on cold start..
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve never noticed the chain tbh.
 
  
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