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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996 Turbo prices seem to have settled a bit?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think sponge is just looking for excuses NOT to buy a car Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from Winter and Brexit you have the first London councils announcing ULEZ. Starts with, I believe, £12.50 a day to drive your car in their area IIf it doesn’t meet relevant Euro standard. There’s one measure for diesel another for petrol. I’m unclear if you get a resident discount. I’d imagine if you do, you won’t for long.

Personally I would really grieve me to pay a fee in addition to all the other fees, every time I took the car out. I suspect others will feel the same. I don’t underestimate this threat to classic car ownership.

All local authorities will be allowed to create these money making zones under banner of protecting children’s lungs. The costs will likely escalate fast. Whilst most classics aren’t daily drivers, legislation change like this will change buying habits. How much remains to be seen.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

highway wrote:
Aside from Winter and 911uk you have the first London councils announcing ULEZ. Starts with, I believe, £12.50 a day to drive your car in their area IIf it doesn’t meet relevant Euro standard. There’s one measure for diesel another for petrol. I’m unclear if you get a resident discount. I’d imagine if you do, you won’t for long.

Personally I would really grieve me to pay a fee in addition to all the other fees, every time I took the car out. I suspect others will feel the same. I don’t underestimate this threat to classic car ownership.

All local authorities will be allowed to create these money making zones under banner of protecting children’s lungs. The costs will likely escalate fast. Whilst most classics aren’t daily drivers, legislation change like this will change buying habits. How much remains to be seen.


Yet another factor driving down prices....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
I think sponge is just looking for excuses NOT to buy a car Grin


Au contrair a deal could be done before the weeks out Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject: doom Reply with quote

Could somebody please message me when they see a nice 964 ,manual gearbox 2wd car ,no rot,in a nice colour for £25 bags? Cash waiting thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-996

Even the widow maker is holding firm with no sign of panic

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt2-996

If anything the 996/997 GT’s prices are holding steady.

This time of year prices always dip but come April they bounce back(unlike Man U will this season)

996/997 and Boxster Spyders were the last of the 100% pure Porsche variants before VAG stepped in with various Audi related ideas such as electric power steering and non manual boxes for the GT3’s
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: doom Reply with quote

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Could somebody please message me when they see a nice 964 ,manual gearbox 2wd car ,no rot,in a nice colour for £25 bags? Cash waiting thumbsup


I'll message you about the second one. The first one will be in my garage. Very Happy
(Just kidding. I couldn't be bothered to do all the work I've done to my 996 again and just about every 964 out there will need it, for me to be happy with it. Nice cars though.)

It's all opinion, but we should definitely revisit this thread in a years time and see how things are. Thumb

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
jonttt wrote:
I think sponge is just looking for excuses NOT to buy a car Grin


Au contrair a deal could be done before the weeks out Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair I don’t think the op is far off the mark....been thinking the same but almost didn’t want to post due to the risk of getting flamed. I dropped £27k on a 996 C4S last year and the problems I had with it and its return to the dealer now seems a blessing in disguise as the same car now can be seen for much less.
I have been looking to replace it since, not as quickly as I had originally planned due to the birth of my little boy but still on the hunt and watching the market. Prices are being slashed not by small amounts but like said £4-5k at a time. I am viewing a car tomorrow that a week ago was £45k and now offered at £39,995. These reductions are far from seasonal but obvious settlement. My only concern at this stage is where on a falling market do you jump in!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My only concern at this stage is where on a falling market do you jump in!

I guess it depends if you are treating this as an investment. The old adage with any security is 'never try and catch a falling knife'....Its difficult to call the bottom of a market, so wait till its come and prices are slowly climbing again....

However if this is more of a dream car purchase, that you intend to keep. Then I would probably also be influenced by when you see the car you really want, in the condition you want, at a price you are happy to pay.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BChivs wrote:
My only concern at this stage is where on a falling market do you jump in!

I guess it depends if you are treating this as an investment. The old adage with any security is 'never try and catch a falling knife'....Its difficult to call the bottom of a market, so wait till its come and prices are slowly climbing again....

However if this is more of a dream car purchase, that you intend to keep. Then I would probably also be influenced by when you see the car you really want, in the condition you want, at a price you are happy to pay.


I don’t really see any car as a savvy investment....running costs usually far outweigh any real appreciation, but it just makes the purchase a better proposition. I always strongly consider depreciation risk with any car purchase and try and buy with my head....I would ever buy a brand new car, even if money was no option due to this mind set.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However if this is more of a dream car purchase, that you intend to keep. Then I would probably also be influenced by when you see the car you really want, in the condition you want, at a price you are happy to pay.


Wise Words, a dream car is where most of us on here began our story
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
jonttt wrote:
I think sponge is just looking for excuses NOT to buy a car Grin


Au contrair a deal could be done before the weeks out Thumb


Ferrari California?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

benbuhagiar wrote:
spongebob squarepants wrote:
jonttt wrote:
I think sponge is just looking for excuses NOT to buy a car Grin


Au contrair a deal could be done before the weeks out Thumb


Ferrari California?


Alas not, that would mean a second divorce, and me and Mrs SBSP not even married yet Surprised If there were no future Mrs sponge I would already of pulled the trigger. nooo
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here’s another bargain, has to be worth 80 k though in today’s market, Lava ❤️💪🤗✅

http://911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=8695
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Here’s another bargain, has to be worth 80 k though in today’s market, Lava ❤️💪🤗✅

http://911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=8695


3 year service schedule?! Not due a service before Nov 2020?!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

everytime I see one of these "impending crash" threads I do laugh a bit... I mean if you keep saying that the house / car / stock market is going to crash then of course it will happen, and you can say "I told you so!"
I've seen many times over the last few years people saying the car finance / lease market will burst soon but hey... its still going!
I do think the market has slowed a bit, time of year and brexit are two factors I agree are contributing towards this.
I had mine for sale for 3 weeks on AT and had a couple of email enquiries, nothing more than this... when I was in the market for mine, hartech rebuilds were snapped up in days! so I was surprised not to get more interest in mine...
oh well, bring on the crash PC
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

michaelbbwalker wrote:
everytime I see one of these "impending crash" threads I do laugh a bit... I mean if you keep saying that the house / car / stock market is going to crash then of course it will happen, and you can say "I told you so!"
I've seen many times over the last few years people saying the car finance / lease market will burst soon but hey... its still going!
I do think the market has slowed a bit, time of year and brexit are two factors I agree are contributing towards this.
I had mine for sale for 3 weeks on AT and had a couple of email enquiries, nothing more than this... when I was in the market for mine, hartech rebuilds were snapped up in days! so I was surprised not to get more interest in mine...
oh well, bring on the crash PC


Err could this be because of the price crash!!! If its a manual coupe in white, red or yellow pm me details Grin
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go sponge...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/carrera-gts/porsche-911-997-gen-ii-carrera-gts-cabriolet-pdk-sports-exhaust/7941565

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